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  • gastorgrab
    Badcaps Veteran
    • May 2007
    • 320

    #1

    Is this believable?

    http://www.nichicon-us.com/english/index.html

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  • willawake
    Super Modulator
    • Nov 2003
    • 8457
    • Greece

    #2
    Re: Is this believable?

    all the big companies have had messages like that for a while now.
    capacitor lab yachtmati techmati

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    • starfury1
      Badcaps Legend
      • May 2006
      • 1256

      #3
      Re: Is this believable?

      there has been posts here on fakes
      So yeah, believe they do exist
      in other words I suppose dont buy from your friendly ebay trader based in China..

      the other thing to watch out for is very similar style of fonts and names like rulycon
      You step into the Road, and if you don't keep your feet, there is no knowing where you may be swept off to." Bilbo Baggins ...

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      • gastorgrab
        Badcaps Veteran
        • May 2007
        • 320

        #4
        Re: Is this believable?

        Yes but can the entire problem with HM/HN caps be explained away?

        It seems really convienient.
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        • willawake
          Super Modulator
          • Nov 2003
          • 8457
          • Greece

          #5
          Re: Is this believable?

          - even counterfeit caps would have lasted longer than those HM/HN

          - unlikely that Intel, Apple, Dell were all using same oems or same cap supplier, therefore quite difficult to distribute fake caps to all.
          capacitor lab yachtmati techmati

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          • gastorgrab
            Badcaps Veteran
            • May 2007
            • 320

            #6
            Re: Is this believable?

            Originally posted by willawake
            quite difficult to distribute fake caps to all.
            Thats what I thought.
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            • PeteS in CA
              Badcaps Legend
              • Aug 2005
              • 3579
              • USA, Unsure of Planet

              #7
              Re: Is this believable?

              Nichicon has, AFAIK, acknowledged the problem with the HM and HM caps as having been due to a process problem in their own factory. So this notice is not some kind of attempt to duck blame. As willa pointed out. I've seen a similar notice on UCC site, and something like it could probably be found on Rubycon's and Panasonic's sites. I think Big Pope linked to a Samxon webpage with a similar notice.

              Counterfeiting is a problem for any good vendor of good parts. About a year ago we caught some counterfeit MOSFETs. Our tests not only sufficed to prove they were not what they marked, but also identified what they probably were (an older generation of a very good, lower performance part, from a very good vendor that were probably bought surplus and remarked).
              PeteS in CA

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              • starfury1
                Badcaps Legend
                • May 2006
                • 1256

                #8
                Re: Is this believable?

                yeah that was my understanding the HM/HN (whatever) were real macoy but a bad bunch....
                Think the early G5 cheese graters had them

                in the 80's there was a bunch of 2N3055 transistors that were counterfeit...well they didn't meet the specs thats for sure
                (think from memory was the 2N series)
                I think they were coming through a ligament Hobby chain too....

                So its a worry when know good supplies get caught out

                Its not great either when a know good company ends up producing duds but it happens
                As in the case of Nichicon.....Apple got burned by this
                You step into the Road, and if you don't keep your feet, there is no knowing where you may be swept off to." Bilbo Baggins ...

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                • gastorgrab
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • May 2007
                  • 320

                  #9
                  Re: Is this believable?

                  A 'bad batch' is more consistant with this;


                  (this is for the 8mm part; 1000uF, 16v)


                  The seller has a reputation to protect too. If the part was found to never had been viable then why would it be still listed?
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                  • toastygoodness
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 813
                    • United States

                    #10
                    Re: Is this believable?

                    I thought the HM/HN problem was corrected? A lot of my new vid cards and boards have them along with rubies and those solid ones.

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                    • Spacedye69
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 698
                      • US

                      #11
                      Re: Is this believable?

                      I've had no problems so far with new HMs.

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