Is this believable?

[gastorgrab]

http://www.nichicon-us.com/english/index.html

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[willawake]

Re: Is this believable?

all the big companies have had messages like that for a while now.

[starfury1]

Re: Is this believable?

there has been posts here on fakes
So yeah, believe they do exist
in other words I suppose dont buy from your friendly ebay trader based in China..

the other thing to watch out for is very similar style of fonts and names like rulycon

[gastorgrab]

Re: Is this believable?

Yes but can the entire problem with HM/HN caps be explained away?

It seems really convienient.
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[willawake]

Re: Is this believable?

- even counterfeit caps would have lasted longer than those HM/HN

- unlikely that Intel, Apple, Dell were all using same oems or same cap supplier, therefore quite difficult to distribute fake caps to all.

[gastorgrab]

Re: Is this believable?

quite difficult to distribute fake caps to all.

Thats what I thought.
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[PeteS in CA]

Re: Is this believable?

Nichicon has, AFAIK, acknowledged the problem with the HM and HM caps as having been due to a process problem in their own factory. So this notice is not some kind of attempt to duck blame. As willa pointed out. I've seen a similar notice on UCC site, and something like it could probably be found on Rubycon's and Panasonic's sites. I think Big Pope linked to a Samxon webpage with a similar notice.

Counterfeiting is a problem for any good vendor of good parts. About a year ago we caught some counterfeit MOSFETs. Our tests not only sufficed to prove they were not what they marked, but also identified what they probably were (an older generation of a very good, lower performance part, from a very good vendor that were probably bought surplus and remarked).

[starfury1]

Re: Is this believable?

yeah that was my understanding the HM/HN (whatever) were real macoy but a bad bunch....
Think the early G5 cheese graters had them

in the 80's there was a bunch of 2N3055 transistors that were counterfeit...well they didn't meet the specs thats for sure
(think from memory was the 2N series)
I think they were coming through a ligament Hobby chain too....

So its a worry when know good supplies get caught out

Its not great either when a know good company ends up producing duds but it happens
As in the case of Nichicon.....Apple got burned by this

[gastorgrab]

Re: Is this believable?

A 'bad batch' is more consistant with this;


(this is for the 8mm part; 1000uF, 16v)


The seller has a reputation to protect too. If the part was found to never had been viable then why would it be still listed?
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[toastygoodness]

Re: Is this believable?

I thought the HM/HN problem was corrected? A lot of my new vid cards and boards have them along with rubies and those solid ones.

[Spacedye69]

Re: Is this believable?

I've had no problems so far with new HMs.