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  • Th3_uN1Qu3
    Believe in
    • Jul 2010
    • 6031
    • Romania
    #1

    The magic of Christmas

    A friend is supposed to come by and transfer some music on his new phone. At home he no longer has a computer (he moved out of town and came for Christmas to see his folks), so he called me if i could help.

    As you remember, here at my grandparents' place i have the dual-PIII. I remembered that the USB 2.0 card wasn't getting recognized, and it'd be a pain doing it with USB 1.1 on the motherboard. I had 2 USB 2.0 cards, both with VIA chipsets, same results - no worky in PCI slot 3.

    I suspected a dud PCI slot. So i moved the smaller of the two USB cards in PCI slot 2, the only other free one. Aka right below the video card, PCI slot 1 being taken by the Pentagram cooler i have on the 9800 Pro.

    At this point i have to mention that my case doesn't have separate screw holes for each card, but instead it has a bracket held in place with 2 screws which secures all the cards. That's why i hate having to install a new PCI card because all the cards move around when i take that bracket out, sometimes knocking the video card out of its place so the system will no longer boot untill i wiggle it around.

    Now, the USB 2.0 card worked in slot 2. However, my soundcard wasn't getting detected anymore. More wiggling later... alright, my sound is back. And another surprising event happened - i had left the other card in PCI slot 3, i hadn't removed it. Guess what? That one got detected as well. I now have more USB ports than i can shake a stick at. 4x USB 2.0 on each card plus 2x USB 1.1 on the mobo. This is one "full option" computer - 2 CPUs, all RAM slots full (4x 512, 1GB sticks SDRAM were unobtanium unfortunately), and now all PCI slots full too (2x USB controllers, SATA controller, sound card) and a ton of USB ports to boot.

    Merry Christmas everyone!
    Last edited by Th3_uN1Qu3; 12-25-2011, 08:08 AM.
    Originally posted by PeteS in CA
    Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
    A working TV? How boring!
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    • Scenic
      o.O
      • Sep 2007
      • 2642
      • Germany
      #2
      Re: The magic of Christmas

      I hate those cheap POS cases with one bracket holding all the cards in (or rather not holding them in)..
      Had so many problems with them.. like cards "hanging" in the slots, losing contact on one side of the connector -> not detected. (which is probably exactly what your problem is/was lol)

      And I'm glad my mainboard has "enough" USB ports out of the box..
      8x USB 2.0 at the back + 4 via headers

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        • Th3_uN1Qu3
          Believe in
          • Jul 2010
          • 6031
          • Romania
          #3
          Re: The magic of Christmas

          Originally posted by Scenic
          I hate those cheap POS cases with one bracket holding all the cards in (or rather not holding them in)..
          This is actually a nice case, and i rather like it. Been having it for like 5 years... and other than the side plexi cracking because stupid me tightened the fan screws too hard after i cleaned it, it's been serving me just fine.
          Originally posted by PeteS in CA
          Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
          A working TV? How boring!

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            • PCBONEZ
              Grumpy Old Fart
              • Aug 2005
              • 10661
              • USA
              #4
              Re: The magic of Christmas

              Maybe IRQ routing issue?
              .
              Some old boards needed it set manually in the BIOS to 'make it stick'. (Not change again later.)
              .
              Last edited by PCBONEZ; 12-25-2011, 05:55 PM.
              Mann-Made Global Warming.
              - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.
              -
              Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
              - Dr Seuss
              -
              You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
              -

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                • Th3_uN1Qu3
                  Believe in
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 6031
                  • Romania
                  #5
                  Re: The magic of Christmas

                  Nope, deffo no IRQ issue as the BIOS hasn't been touched during this time. Just an old-fashioned, electrical connection related thing.
                  Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                  Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
                  A working TV? How boring!

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                    • PCBONEZ
                      Grumpy Old Fart
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 10661
                      • USA
                      #6
                      Re: The magic of Christmas

                      Originally posted by Th3_uN1Qu3
                      as the BIOS hasn't been touched during this time.
                      That was kind of my point.
                      You may need to in order for the new card to work.
                      Particularly as the board is a P3 server board.
                      PnP was called Plug 'n' Pray back then.
                      .
                      Mann-Made Global Warming.
                      - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.
                      -
                      Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
                      - Dr Seuss
                      -
                      You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                      -

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                        • Th3_uN1Qu3
                          Believe in
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 6031
                          • Romania
                          #7
                          Re: The magic of Christmas

                          Well the "new" card had been sitting in that slot for over an year without getting detected, and moving it to another slot made it work.
                          Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                          Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
                          A working TV? How boring!

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                            • mariushm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • May 2011
                              • 3799
                              #8
                              Re: The magic of Christmas

                              Some slots share IRQs and resources - it may just be the case that as you moves the cards they were both able to get the resources they needed.

                              Anyway, while I understand you're happy and I'm happy for you, somehow this seems to me as pretty... how to put it and not sound offensive... oh well... shitty reason to say it's MAGIC of Christmas...

                              I would understand if it was about changing someone's life or having a baby or getting together with some long lost relatives or friends but getting a card working again?

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                                • Th3_uN1Qu3
                                  Believe in
                                  • Jul 2010
                                  • 6031
                                  • Romania
                                  #9
                                  Re: The magic of Christmas

                                  Eh, i could call it the BOREDOM of Christmas then. And i'm 100% sure it was an electrical connection issue, because the board is old, the slots are flaky and the mounting method to the case isn't exceptional.

                                  As for changing peoples' lives, that's my "day job"... I can hardly call that magic anymore, it's just something i do.
                                  Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                                  Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
                                  A working TV? How boring!

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