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  • gerg
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Nov 2010
    • 278
    • United States

    #21
    Re: Your dependence on the internet?

    pretty much everything 90% of my job is across networks and internet.

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    • shovenose
      Send Doge Memes
      • Aug 2010
      • 6575
      • USA

      #22
      Re: Your dependence on the internet?

      I think more and more people are doing everything online. It's unfortunate we're stuck with lousy internet providers who provide shitty overpriced service.
      I wish that I had sufficient capital to start an internet provider - I would have great customer service, a fast and reliable network, low priced modems, 24/7 free support that knows english and can get a technician to to the home within 1 hour of a trouble report, and charge a good price for the whole thing too... This is how America's internet providers should be - we're a modern country and I can't believe we've got such shitty companies like AT&T providing the internet connection...
      Ah I wish I had serveral billion dollars to put into a project like this.
      Anybody have some extra money I could borrow?

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      • ratdude747
        Black Sheep
        • Nov 2008
        • 17136
        • USA

        #23
        Re: Your dependence on the internet?

        for me, I try do as many things offline as I can.

        I never really bought into the whole "cloud computing" thing.

        I surf the web a lot, but, anythign otherwise is doen through programs on my own computer... granted, I do watch a lot of youtube, but before it was meesed up by adobe, I would often save the videos for offline use. Even with games, i tend to not use flash versions much.

        (obviously, I won't be using google OS anytime soon)
        sigpic

        (Insert witty quote here)

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        • shovenose
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          • Aug 2010
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          #24
          Re: Your dependence on the internet?

          Chrome OS is retarded. But since I'm currently working on a cloud OS myself (which I can't tell you more about because you haven't signed an NDA) I shouldn't diss the whole idea...

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          • anhoty
            New Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 2

            #25
            Re: Your dependence on the internet?

            I can't controll myself if I have computer at home.
            but when I go to the countryside,and it has no computer,no laptop. just like the live in the nature, it seems that internet is not that important.
            Fresh air, clean water, green trees ,colorful flower. What a good day!!

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            • shovenose
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              • Aug 2010
              • 6575
              • USA

              #26
              Re: Your dependence on the internet?

              I'm glad you are still able to enjoy nature!
              Good for you, and don't lose that.
              I know what it feels like to lose the ability to enjoy life without technology, why because sometimes I feel like it's happened to me
              So get all the relaxed nature time you can
              And give me a good internet connection and a computer

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              • Evil Lurker
                Warranty Voider
                • Feb 2011
                • 454

                #27
                Re: Your dependence on the internet?

                I'm fairly far out from the switch and my wire sucks... its constantly hissing and popping in the background. I figure if I was lucky I might hit twice what I run at now due to physical distance from the switch. On the upside its fairly cheap for what I get... $32 a month gets me DSL "raw" plus a local phone line and phone number.

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                • shovenose
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                  • Aug 2010
                  • 6575
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                  #28
                  Re: Your dependence on the internet?

                  139ms ping, how do you do anything online???
                  I really should start Shovenose Communications :P
                  How does 20M down, 2M up for $39.99/month with a free modem for life sound?

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                  • severach
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 1055
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: Your dependence on the internet?

                    I can function without the Internet but most of my income would be gone and I'd quickly run out of books. Online orders would fail to arrive and I'd need to go back to floppies in a taxi across town to deliver data. Attach, send, done. The Internet opens new income opportunities and makes existing work faster and easier.

                    At work I have
                    Speedtest.net
                    Ping 103ms
                    Download 5.03Mbps
                    Upload 0.22Mbps

                    This is pretty close to what is claimed by the DSL modem:
                    Connection Speed:
                    Incoming: 6912 kbps
                    Outgoing: 512 kbps

                    With no "rape the consumer" policy Shovenose Communications would have no money. You wouldn't get your Yacht (rhymes with hatchet) and therefore wouldn't have any interest in continuing. You're only generous because you're poor. When you're almost rich the only thing you'll want is to be more rich. That means higher prices and poorer service. Damn the customers, full speed ahead!
                    sig files are for morons

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                    • Evil Lurker
                      Warranty Voider
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 454

                      #30
                      Re: Your dependence on the internet?

                      Originally posted by shovenose
                      139ms ping, how do you do anything online???
                      I really should start Shovenose Communications :P
                      How does 20M down, 2M up for $39.99/month with a free modem for life sound?
                      It may have something to do with the fact that I'm using a $10 geeks.com wireless router special hooked onto the telephone company provided Actiontec DSL modem (also worth about $10).

                      Its far from being up to par compared to the average USA broadband speed but still tons faster than dial up at about the same cost.

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                      • shovenose
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                        • Aug 2010
                        • 6575
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                        #31
                        Re: Your dependence on the internet?

                        Actiontec?
                        Geeks.com?

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                        • toastygoodness
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 813
                          • United States

                          #32
                          Re: Your dependence on the internet?

                          i'm fully dependent on the internet. research depends on access to worldwide info and being a sysadmin means i.... have to do something with the internet at least once a day.

                          university campus ftw, though this is thru a NAT box so it's a bit slow... gigabit links are bauss...

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                          • shovenose
                            Send Doge Memes
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 6575
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                            #33
                            Re: Your dependence on the internet?

                            Originally posted by severach
                            I can function without the Internet but most of my income would be gone and I'd quickly run out of books. Online orders would fail to arrive and I'd need to go back to floppies in a taxi across town to deliver data. Attach, send, done. The Internet opens new income opportunities and makes existing work faster and easier.

                            At work I have
                            Speedtest.net
                            Ping 103ms
                            Download 5.03Mbps
                            Upload 0.22Mbps

                            This is pretty close to what is claimed by the DSL modem:
                            Connection Speed:
                            Incoming: 6912 kbps
                            Outgoing: 512 kbps

                            With no "rape the consumer" policy Shovenose Communications would have no money. You wouldn't get your Yacht (rhymes with hatchet) and therefore wouldn't have any interest in continuing. You're only generous because you're poor. When you're almost rich the only thing you'll want is to be more rich. That means higher prices and poorer service. Damn the customers, full speed ahead!
                            Why do you assume that about me?

                            I think if a company didn't "rape the consumer" and they proved it, I believe word of mouth and maybe some advertising could easily gain a huge portion of the ISP pie very quickly. Unfortunately, it takes a lot of initial ("capital?") to lay internet lines and get the proper approvals

                            If a business (such as the fictional Shovenose Communications) could actually do something good for customers then enough people would flock to them and they would break even rather quickly... it's just a matter of having a whole shitload of money to start out with...

                            Don't you think that? Or am I totally off on this?

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                            • severach
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 1055
                              • USA

                              #34
                              Re: Your dependence on the internet?

                              When I want ink cartridges, I think of Office Depot and Office Max. Advertising and excess is what makes that happen. Sure they cost more. They're open on Saturday and have a web presence where I can get pricing and availability. If you don't rape the consumer you won't have the advertising dollars needed to ... rape the consumer, or do much of anything.

                              Noone but the phone company and the cable company will ever have a big portion of the ISP pie for the same reason. When I'm in a new town, who do I think of for Internet? Phone or cable. It could take months to sift through all the fly by night ISPs to figure out which one is reasonable. Due to lack of advertising only those who work there know how good they are.

                              Peope don't care if they get raped or not. Where I'm at has two 7Mbit DSL connections from AT&T that get barely used. I've suggested reducing to one and running an interconnect but they aren't interested. Most would rather pay extra than optimize.

                              Check these guys out: http://www.flex.com/

                              What's wrong with their business plan? There are too few IP smart users to pay the bills and too many people who want to contact the ISP when they get a virus on their computer that blocks Internet access. It's worth more money from most of the market to provide staff that handles problems unrelated to Internet connectivity. Peace of mind is worth a lot of money.
                              sig files are for morons

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                              • stretch0069
                                Screwed Up Super Moderator
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 2658
                                • oooo ess aaaaaaaaa

                                #35
                                Re: Your dependence on the internet?

                                I do a lot online. I have other things offline to do, but I need to be in the mood. Haven't built a model in probably 4 years now. Right now, I have unpacking to keep me busy.


                                oh...and as for speed....damn....mine is a bit slow today. stupid cable modems







                                I can't get DSL or FIOS. The cable company here goes from 6 to 15 with nothing in between. I had 3Mb service in VA, but videos would sometimes pause.
                                "Its all about the boom....."

                                Guns kill people like spoons made Rosie O'Donnell fat.

                                We now return you to your regularly scheduled drinking.

                                "Fear accompanies the possibility of death.....calm shepherds its certainty"

                                Originally posted by Topcat
                                AWD is just training wheels for RWD.

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                                • stretch0069
                                  Screwed Up Super Moderator
                                  • Oct 2003
                                  • 2658
                                  • oooo ess aaaaaaaaa

                                  #36
                                  Re: Your dependence on the internet?

                                  Originally posted by toastygoodness
                                  i'm fully dependent on the internet. research depends on access to worldwide info and being a sysadmin means i.... have to do something with the internet at least once a day.

                                  university campus ftw, though this is thru a NAT box so it's a bit slow... gigabit links are bauss...
                                  THAT is sick!
                                  "Its all about the boom....."

                                  Guns kill people like spoons made Rosie O'Donnell fat.

                                  We now return you to your regularly scheduled drinking.

                                  "Fear accompanies the possibility of death.....calm shepherds its certainty"

                                  Originally posted by Topcat
                                  AWD is just training wheels for RWD.

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                                  • kaboom
                                    "Oh, Grouchy!"
                                    • Jan 2011
                                    • 2507
                                    • USA

                                    #37
                                    Re: Your dependence on the internet?

                                    Originally posted by ratdude747
                                    I never really bought into the whole "cloud computing" thing. (obviously, I won't be using google OS anytime soon)
                                    Never have, never will. Either one.

                                    And if "This Video Uploaded by an Android Phone" is anything to go by, google can shove it.

                                    Sorry, Mike- lolz

                                    Originally posted by shovenose
                                    I think if a company didn't "rape the consumer" and they proved it, I believe word of mouth and maybe some advertising could easily gain a huge portion of the ISP pie very quickly. Unfortunately, it takes a lot of initial ("capital?") to lay internet lines and get the proper approvals

                                    If a business (such as the fictional Shovenose Communications) could actually do something good for customers then enough people would flock to them and they would break even rather quickly... it's just a matter of having a whole shitload of money to start out with...
                                    And don't forget you'd also have to deal with Comcast and Verizon's "dirty little tricks." Once you play ball with them and one-up their lies (Speedboost, anyone?) you'd have customers outta your ears. Then, you or whoever in charge would have to resist any 'buyout' offers.

                                    Anything would be better than this "Internet with a package" bullshit.

                                    -Paul
                                    "pokemon go... to hell!"

                                    EOL it...
                                    Originally posted by shango066
                                    All style and no substance.
                                    Originally posted by smashstuff30
                                    guilty,guilty,guilty,guilty!
                                    guilty of being cheap-made!

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                                    • shovenose
                                      Send Doge Memes
                                      • Aug 2010
                                      • 6575
                                      • USA

                                      #38
                                      Re: Your dependence on the internet?

                                      Originally posted by kaboom
                                      Never have, never will. Either one.

                                      And if "This Video Uploaded by an Android Phone" is anything to go by, google can shove it.

                                      Sorry, Mike- lolz
                                      Wait what? I don't quite understand...and no offense taken But I love my Android phone nontheless, and it's especially awesome after overclocking it (when I want performance) or underclocking it (when I need longer battery life)...

                                      Originally posted by kaboom
                                      And don't forget you'd also have to deal with Comcast and Verizon's "dirty little tricks." Once you play ball with them and one-up their lies (Speedboost, anyone?) you'd have customers outta your ears. Then, you or whoever in charge would have to resist any 'buyout' offers.

                                      Anything would be better than this "Internet with a package" bullshit.

                                      -Paul
                                      Not quite sure what you mean here either. Comcrap, verizon, gAyT&T (sorry, no offense to homosexuals) all have dirty tricks to get their services appear better. But... how would that affect a competitor? Would that be a good thing or bad thing to me?

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                                      • pfrcom
                                        Oldbie
                                        • Jun 2006
                                        • 1230
                                        • Australia

                                        #39
                                        Re: Your dependence on the internet?

                                        Originally posted by shovenose
                                        I wish that I had sufficient capital to start an internet provider - I would have great customer service, a fast and reliable network, low priced modems, 24/7 free support that knows english and can get a technician to to the home within 1 hour of a trouble report, and charge a good price for the whole thing too
                                        Reminds me of the ISP to whom I switched last December - their offer sounded too good to be true, but seeing positive feedback on forums, I took the plunge

                                        And they were terrific - until June, when there was a 6+ days outage

                                        Checked the situation from work, to find they'd been taken over by another player who was blaming previous management for the problems

                                        Now the other player has Administrators appointed - similar scenario to American Chapter 11 bankruptcy - and who knows, least of all their customers, what the future holds

                                        If/when I change again, will probably be to Australia's equivalent of AT&T
                                        better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

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                                        • kaboom
                                          "Oh, Grouchy!"
                                          • Jan 2011
                                          • 2507
                                          • USA

                                          #40
                                          Re: Your dependence on the internet?

                                          Originally posted by shovenose
                                          Wait what? I don't quite understand...and no offense taken But I love my Android phone nontheless, and it's especially awesome after overclocking it (when I want performance) or underclocking it (when I need longer battery life)...
                                          I'm sure you realize that there are both good and terrible phones running android. The whole bit where any android fone video on yoohootube "advertises" itself is not really necessary.



                                          Originally posted by shovenose
                                          Not quite sure what you mean here either. Comcrap, verizon, gAyT&T (sorry, no offense to homosexuals) all have dirty tricks to get their services appear better. But... how would that affect a competitor? Would that be a good thing or bad thing to me?
                                          Once you played dirty against their commie-ercials, you'd come out on top. Crapcast, with their speedboost lie- sure, it was faster when first starting a download or "dumping a buffer" somewhere, but the raw sustained down speed was still 10-12 Mbps. And let's not forget that FIOS was only deployed where the ROI made it worthwhile- IOW, no FIOS in older developments where UG cables would have to be replaced, along with running fiber.

                                          On either side of this immediate area, it's verizon territory. The west edge of which is only two blocks away and it's plenty of 'copper distance' from the old CO. Needless to say, the "high speed" DSL tops out at 600kbps - 1.25 Mbps down, ~65 kbps - ~550kbps up. Pings are anywhere from 25 ms to 500 ms, depending on what's gotten wet. Packet loss is no less than 25%, usually 50%, sometimes 75%+. "Webby" stuff like HTML, webmail "appears" to work, but only because of the (hidden from the dummy user) retries. They never even know about the packet loss and disgusting pings. They all say, "It works- why switch?" That's the Berks "COW-ney" attitude for ya... "It works, so why do anything?"

                                          We use service electric and get 'the package.' What a ripoff... at least the service is better than comcast. With 10/1, it's usually 11 or so down, at least 1, usually 1.5 down. Pings are usually decent, with [b]no[b] loss. Can't ping right now- got some "eddies, torrents and swells."

                                          Telco is interesting. Years ago, it was Conestoga telephone, then CEI networks, then D&E communications (DE Jazz'd, so called). Then they got bought out by windstream.

                                          The fun part for your 'rollout' will be dealing with towns, as well as 'last mile' issues. Meaning, dealing with bribing politicians/lobbyists that are paid agents from verizon/crapcast, that push competitors out. I'd like to say you'd have "deregulation" barriers to deal with, but we all know that ISPs are not regulated per se. Not under the PUC anyway. If there even is one in Hicksylvania!

                                          Originally posted by pfrcom
                                          Reminds me of the ISP to whom I switched last December - their offer sounded too good to be true, but seeing positive feedback on forums, I took the plunge
                                          Oh yes. The comers-and-goers, with their 'fake' reviews. Sounds just like the whole 'dial-up wars' from years ago. Which reminds me- who remembers the netzero/aol "high-speed" scam? They wanted you to pay more just for text/HTML compression??? Anyone with a brain knew that you got no real speed increase, this was still dial-up. The disclaimer that it didn't increase file download speeds gave it away!

                                          Let's just say that it's a different crowd here in PA! Present company (this means you, Dood) excluded of course.
                                          "pokemon go... to hell!"

                                          EOL it...
                                          Originally posted by shango066
                                          All style and no substance.
                                          Originally posted by smashstuff30
                                          guilty,guilty,guilty,guilty!
                                          guilty of being cheap-made!

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