heads up!! Samsung looking to sell storage line.

[Wizard]

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=21398

If true, that would be real bad news because I rather liked to use Samsung HD as well as hitachi HDs. I'm still reluctant to buy Seagate (which models are good, out of bad ones?)

I'm not interested in toshiba's line. Slow line no matter what.

Cheers, Wizard

[c_hegge]

Re: heads up!! Samsung looking to sell storage line.

I actually think it's a VERY good thing. Samsung are the worst IMO, tied with Hitachi Deathstars. I still find both are unreliable down to this day. If you are buying new HDDs, seagate are fine. No one still sells the affected models. WD has always been a good brand too.

[PCBONEZ]

Re: heads up!! Samsung looking to sell storage line.

I've only had one Samsung HDD ever, and that was enough....
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[digge]

Re: heads up!! Samsung looking to sell storage line.

I dont think samsung drives are quite that bad. Up until recently i had 3x500gb drives running in my machine, mainly cause they was the most quiet drives i could find at the time. They been running 24/7 for 3 years or so without any problems apart from being a tad slow when i want to do more heavy stuff (video rendering), but mainly used them as storage. I might add that i have had fairly good cooling on them, that might be why they survived so good.

And in case people wonder, the drives didn't die, i just outgrew the space and decided to go for a mirror raid for more safety. (being a bit paranoid with that old drives)

On the other hand i have no numbers on their failure rates so i might just have been super lucky with mine.

[severach]

Re: heads up!! Samsung looking to sell storage line.

Early Samsung drives were a disaster. Recent ones are no worse than the rest. They aren't very impressive though.

Seagate 7200.11 was the disaster series. If you flash the firmware before they die then they are no longer a disaster. If you learn to fix and flash the drives that don't show in the BIOS any more then you get a nice stream of free drives and a lot of happy people that get their data back.

[Mad_Professor]

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Awww what a disappointment, I have 6x 1TB samsung F3 Drives, 1x 500GB and 1x 2TB Samsung that I had a nearly a year or more, no problems yet. Not to mention their ratings on newegg seem to 25% higher then WD and Seagate's combined.

Frankly I had enough of crapgate's high failure rates, poor support, shit prices and hot drives. WD has let me down with their modification of TLER on their desktop drives making them useless for raid operations, spending $75 more for the enterprise drives. There's no performance series from WD unless you want a limited space Raptor. Both seem to have poor reliability. I don't even want to talk about Hitachi.

So disappointing about Samsung, their F1 -F3 series are well built, well balanced, runs cool and good performance, not the best. Best part is They are reliable, and $25 cheaper then Seagate and WD.



Buy up all the little guys, Quatum, Maxtor, Hitachi, Samsung to force the market to buy crappy shit products and charge them high prices.

Just another monopoly waiting to happen.

So is it just going to be Seagate and WD in the market who else is still in the game and not well known?

[c_hegge]

Re: heads up!! Samsung looking to sell storage line.

No one, just seagate and WD are left on the HDD market.

[Mad_Professor]

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[ratdude747]

Re: heads up!! Samsung looking to sell storage line.

how do we know wd or seagate will be the buyers... another company might buy it instead...

[PCBONEZ]

Re: heads up!! Samsung looking to sell storage line.

By reading the article in post #1.

[turbozutek]

Re: heads up!! Samsung looking to sell storage line.

I personally have had no problem with Samsung drives whatsoever. In fact, in our corporate enterprise, they are head and shoulders more reliable than other disks we use.

The worst drives I've ever had were WD, to the extent that they are a 'replace on sight' component here now and we go to great pains to never buy anything that uses them.

[dood]

Re: heads up!! Samsung looking to sell storage line.

I personally have had no problem with Samsung drives whatsoever. In fact, in our corporate enterprise, they are head and shoulders more reliable than other disks we use.

The worst drives I've ever had were WD, to the extent that they are a 'replace on sight' component here now and we go to great pains to never buy anything that uses them.

Every time a hard drive brand discussion comes up here, there are very distinct camps. It seems everyone loves or hates brands but there's very little middle ground.

Personally, I'm in the camp that loves WD drives. I've had very few problems with them, and have replaced almost every Samsung, Seagate, and Toshiba drive in my fleet with some form of WD drive. Plus, their RMA process if one should fail is 2nd to none.

I even RMA'ed a brand new drive once because it was noisy. Drive performed perfectly, had no bad sectors, nothing to indicate that it was bad, except more noise when seeking than other drives of the same model. I didn't have to lie about it... just filled out "Drive is noisy", and the RMA went through!

[Scenic]

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i RMA'ed a WD once because out of a batch of 4 identical drives, one was vibrating like crazy. RMA also went through. no questions asked.

A Samsung i have can't even be RMA'ed because the serial printed on that drive apparently doesn't exist according to Samsung (it's not an OEM drive).
It's a HD161HJ (Spinpoint S166) that should be still in warranty (3 years, datecode says August 2008).. but doesn't exist according to the Serial and thus, Samsung refuses the RMA. Fail?

[Wizard]

Re: heads up!! Samsung looking to sell storage line.

Done deal. Seagate and Samsung is tying up now on their stock and money, samsung SSD IP access to Seagate. But one thing I DO NOT LIKE TO hear is Samsung using Seagate drives.

Cheers, Wizard

[Toasty]

Re: heads up!! Samsung looking to sell storage line.

Links:

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=21413

http://seagate.transactionannouncement.com/

[NxB]

Re: heads up!! Samsung looking to sell storage line.

There is always Hitachi.

[Scenic]

Re: heads up!! Samsung looking to sell storage line.

Hitachi was bought out by WD

[Wizard]

Re: heads up!! Samsung looking to sell storage line.

Yes, and very unfortunate. At ONE time WD licensed from IBM to make 7200rpm HD as "enterprise" line and is not really WD design, actually IBM design, mine was 9GB 7200rpm, very reliable (bought it in jan 1999).
Was my PC at home 6 to 10 hours a day for about 3 years, then I reused it in server at work for another 5 years. Now pulled, still working and I don't know where it is now.

I'll write a hot letter to WD to take care on preserving Hitachi's design/quality/performance characteristics. Ditto to Seagate.

Cheers, Wizard

[Uranium-235]

Re: heads up!! Samsung looking to sell storage line.

recently I've one drive die, a clients kid's, and it was a hitachi, his other kid has the same drive and its still working

a few months ago he had a WD 120 ata go out, and wd not only sent him a replacement, but with that, a 500gb RE3 IN ADDITION, which he later traded to me for services, at the time had no use for it.

I also had lying around a 500gb wd that was almost out of warranty that came from another customers computer, and it was indeed dead. of course, the customer is the reason this happened (brownout). I RMA'd it with one month left on the warranty and they sent me a 500gb RE3 instead of a regular black edition

today I went to a dentists office and his main hard drive bit the dust, cause of a brownout. even though they had just bought a UPS, they didn't take the sticker off the other side of the plugs where the battery plugs are, they JUST had it plugged into the surge protector side. The computer, had a 300MB WD drive. It was a 50mhz dx2 intel 486 chip, and they were running a dos program with windows 3.1. the hard drive was manufacturerd in june 1991, and lasted almost 20 years. but then again those low rpm old school drives are the bomb

samsung has a LOT of server storage equipment. I bet they're selling thier HD stuff and focusing on SSD

[Mad_Professor]

Re: heads up!! Samsung looking to sell storage line.

That's what I heard they are selling the mechanical disk line to invest more in their SSD line.


Booo!

Alot of people seem to have different opinion about brands, it could it be geological issue?