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  • moss99
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 50
    • United Kingdom

    #1

    high esr on new rubycon caps

    Hi , i just bought some 47uf 50v caps from farnell , the esr of the cap i took out was around 0.8 the new ones measure 1.8 which seems too high , are these a bad batch do you think ?
  • PeteS in CA
    Badcaps Legend
    • Aug 2005
    • 3581
    • USA, Unsure of Planet

    #2
    Re: high esr on new rubycon caps

    You'd have to look at the spec for the part. Did you buy the same mfr and series or an equivalent part?
    PeteS in CA

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    • bestsystem
      Senior Member
      • May 2011
      • 59

      #3
      Re: high esr on new rubycon caps

      what series is it?

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      • moss99
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2013
        • 50
        • United Kingdom

        #4
        Re: high esr on new rubycon caps

        The caps i removed were JEC cd110 these are what i used to replace them :


        https://uk.farnell.com/rubycon/50yxm...50v/dp/1281851
        Last edited by moss99; 10-01-2020, 02:45 AM. Reason: link didnt work

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        • stj
          Great Sage 齊天大聖
          • Dec 2009
          • 31170
          • Albion

          #5
          Re: high esr on new rubycon caps

          those are not low-impedence caps
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          • moss99
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2013
            • 50
            • United Kingdom

            #6
            Re: high esr on new rubycon caps

            So as a general rule when replacing caps , i would need to see if the caps removed were low esr or not , ?
            i just thought i needed to check capacitance value and voltage , .

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            • stj
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              • Dec 2009
              • 31170
              • Albion

              #7
              Re: high esr on new rubycon caps

              depending on the use, different things may be required.
              a high frequency circuit needs low esr, and low frequency or dc psu's for example will not care but ripple current handling will play a bigger role.

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              • moss99
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2013
                • 50
                • United Kingdom

                #8
                Re: high esr on new rubycon caps

                Thanks for that info , learnt something new today , I will pay more attention when looking at esr charts in future .
                So there must be different charts for low esr ?

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                • stj
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                  • Dec 2009
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                  • Albion

                  #9
                  Re: high esr on new rubycon caps

                  esr is stated in the datasheets of low esr caps,
                  but not in "general purpose" caps.

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                  • moss99
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                    • Oct 2013
                    • 50
                    • United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Re: high esr on new rubycon caps

                    So for power supply boards for example if i had no schematic or the capacitor which needed to be replaced, make could not be identified would it always be better to use low esr caps , ?

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                    • stj
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                      • Dec 2009
                      • 31170
                      • Albion

                      #11
                      Re: high esr on new rubycon caps

                      yes

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                      • moss99
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 50
                        • United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Re: high esr on new rubycon caps

                        Thank you for the great advice ..

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                        • PeteS in CA
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 3581
                          • USA, Unsure of Planet

                          #13
                          Re: high esr on new rubycon caps

                          Using a low impedance part for general purpose decoupling may be moderate overkill, but the extra cost is moderate (or less), and the low impedance part might last longer.
                          PeteS in CA

                          Power Supplies should be boring: No loud noises, no bright flashes, and no bad smells.
                          ****************************
                          To kill personal responsibility, initiative or success, punish it by taxing it. To encourage irresponsibility, improvidence, dependence and failure, reward it by subsidizing it.
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