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  • jeff6666p
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    motherboard short repair question

    I got a bad laptop that was only turning on sometimes and would turn it self off. I was checking out the capacitors and one was staying at 2.3 volts when it should of been 6.4v. I tried linking it with a different one and it started working but while testing I accidentally move wire and it touched a different cap and shorted out and has no power now. If I replace that cap should the computer turn on again. If I post pics of the two caps will someone on here be able to tell me what the are so I can buy the right ones. Thank you
  • jeff6666p
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    Re: motherboard short repair question

    anyone?

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    • stj
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      #3
      Re: motherboard short repair question

      caps arent likely to be the problem
      how about the make & model?
      maybe even a foto or 2 showing what you touched??

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      • jeff6666p
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        Re: motherboard short repair question

        Originally posted by stj
        caps arent likely to be the problem
        how about the make & model?
        maybe even a foto or 2 showing what you touched??
        in photo 81 is the cap thats blue is shows k06w 150 6.3 v. it was only showing 2.3-2.5v when tested. in photo 80 is the cap next the right to pc50 it was coming up at 19-20v before I shorted it. that was the one I linked tto the blue cap.

        its a dell inspiron 1564
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        • stj
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          #5
          Re: motherboard short repair question

          the voltage marked on the cap is not the voltage you should see, it's the maximum it can take without being damaged.

          you need very good pictures of the area to the right of pc50 including the square chip it connects with.

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          • jeff6666p
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            Re: motherboard short repair question

            Originally posted by stj
            the voltage marked on the cap is not the voltage you should see, it's the maximum it can take without being damaged.

            you need very good pictures of the area to the right of pc50 including the square chip it connects with.
            pics are taken with my iphone. I don't have a different camera to take them with the are as clear as I could get.

            I think that one was pc47 not pc 50. I found a schematic and pc50 shows 6.3v when the cap tested 19-20v and pc47 is 25v
            Last edited by jeff6666p; 05-18-2015, 05:49 PM.

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            • jeff6666p
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              Re: motherboard short repair question

              I can I post a page of the schematic for pc47 on here or is it against forum rules?

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              • c_hegge
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                #8
                Re: motherboard short repair question

                That's fine. You can post a schematic.
                I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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                • jeff6666p
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                  Re: motherboard short repair question

                  here the page
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                  • jeff6666p
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                    Re: motherboard short repair question

                    Originally posted by c_hegge
                    That's fine. You can post a schematic.
                    Thanks

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                    • jeff6666p
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                      Re: motherboard short repair question

                      Anyone please help

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                      • jeff6666p
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                        Re: motherboard short repair question

                        took the cap I shorted off and there no power going to the pads.

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                        • budm
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                          #13
                          Re: motherboard short repair question

                          "I think that one was pc47 not pc 50. I found a schematic and pc50 shows 6.3v when the cap tested 19-20v and pc47 is 25v"
                          Are you saying that the DCV on PC50 (filter cap for 5V supply) you are getting 19-20V on this PC50 cap?
                          And you are not getting any DCV on PC47 which is part of multiple filter caps for +PWR_SRC?
                          PC50 is rated Voltage is 6.3V (it does not mean it will have 6.3V on the cap).
                          PC47 is raeted at 25V (it does not mean it will have 25V on the cap).
                          Last edited by budm; 05-18-2015, 10:11 PM.
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                          • jeff6666p
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                            Re: motherboard short repair question

                            Originally posted by budm
                            "I think that one was pc47 not pc 50. I found a schematic and pc50 shows 6.3v when the cap tested 19-20v and pc47 is 25v"
                            Are you saying that the DCV on PC50 (filter cap for 5V supply) you are getting 19-20V?
                            And you are not getting any DCV on PC47 which is part of multiple filter caps for +PWR_SRC?
                            the one I thought was pc50 is pc47. yes no dcv from the pads directly.

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                            • budm
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                              Re: motherboard short repair question

                              Then you need to look at the diagram to find where the circuit that generates the Voltage source +PWR_SRC is at. It may have fuse for protection.
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                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
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                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
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                              • jeff6666p
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                                Re: motherboard short repair question

                                Originally posted by budm
                                Then you need to look at the diagram to find where the circuit that generates the Voltage source +PWR_SRC is at. It may have fuse for protection.
                                I couldn't find a fuse. Is the board unsaveable?

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                                • budm
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                                  Re: motherboard short repair question

                                  Look at the schematic to at least to locate the +PWR_SRC power supply.
                                  I am sure there are lots of SMD fuse on the board.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • jeff6666p
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                                    Re: motherboard short repair question

                                    Originally posted by budm
                                    Look at the schematic to at least to locate the +PWR_SRC power supply.
                                    I am sure there are lots of SMD fuse on the board.
                                    Is this the page I should be looking at?
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                                    • jeff6666p
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                                      Re: motherboard short repair question

                                      Or this one?
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                                      Last edited by jeff6666p; 05-19-2015, 01:50 PM.

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                                      • budm
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                                        Re: motherboard short repair question

                                        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...6&d=1432064514
                                        That is the one.
                                        +DC INPUT fed into the MOSFET PQ1, check and see waht you have on pin 5~8 (in), 1~3 (out), pin 4 (gate).
                                        Do the same on PQ2.
                                        Check the current sensing resistor PR8 (6?).
                                        Last edited by budm; 05-19-2015, 03:03 PM.
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                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
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