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  • Pentium4
    CapXon Be Gone
    • Sep 2011
    • 3741
    • USA

    #1

    Capacitor with no negative lead stripe

    Maybe I've just been more observant lately but this is the first time I can recall not seeing a negative stripe or indication of the negative lead on the capacitor. It's an Evercon off of an old US Robotics 56K modem. So of course its capacitance is in spec it didn't have to do much but the ESR is 0.70Ω

    It doesn't look like a mistake because a negative stripe on either side would overlap some of the other printing

    Am I missing something?
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  • Mrx3750
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jul 2013
    • 311
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Capacitor with no negative lead stripe

    It's a bipolar electrolytic cap.

    The "NP" on it means "Non Polar".

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    • Pentium4
      CapXon Be Gone
      • Sep 2011
      • 3741
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Capacitor with no negative lead stripe

      Thank you. I thought NP was the series of the capacitor

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      • trodas
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Jan 2006
        • 770
        • Czech republic

        #4
        Re: Capacitor with no negative lead stripe

        Of course bipolar. However Evercon is a known bad cap also...
        "It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong." - Voltaire
        "I believe that all the people who stand to profit by a war and who help provoke it should be shot on the first day it starts..." - Hemingway my config - my caps

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        • Pentium4
          CapXon Be Gone
          • Sep 2011
          • 3741
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Capacitor with no negative lead stripe

          Yes, they definitely are but....

          Is it just me or do Evercon seem to be the most "reliable" of the GSC/Sacon/Evercon company bundle?

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          • landyboy
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Apr 2013
            • 443
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Capacitor with no negative lead stripe

            Not to hijack this thread , but are NP and BP caps interchangeable?

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            • senz_90
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Aug 2013
              • 328
              • Indonesia

              #7
              Re: Capacitor with no negative lead stripe

              Originally posted by landyboy
              Not to hijack this thread , but are NP and BP caps interchangeable?
              no. there are not interchangeable but you can make NP caps from 2BP caps on series connection. looks sams site on repairfaq about capacitor. he is made a good explanation on this.
              "There is no shortcut to be successful. No pain, no gain."

              Best Regards
              Rudi
              Thank You

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              • Agent24
                I see dead caps
                • Oct 2007
                • 4922
                • New Zealand

                #8
                Re: Capacitor with no negative lead stripe

                Originally posted by senz_90
                no. there are not interchangeable but you can make NP caps from 2BP caps on series connection. looks sams site on repairfaq about capacitor. he is made a good explanation on this.
                Can you link to the page? I can't find it. I always thought that for electrolytics, NP and BP were just two different names for the same thing.
                "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                -David VanHorn

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                • senz_90
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 328
                  • Indonesia

                  #9
                  Re: Capacitor with no negative lead stripe

                  Originally posted by Agent24
                  Can you link to the page? I can't find it. I always thought that for electrolytics, NP and BP were just two different names for the same thing.
                  here. no it is different caps between Non polar and Bipolar caps.

                  http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/captest.htm#ctnpo

                  this site also have a bunch useful knowledge about SMPS and TV, etc. just try type repairfaq on google.
                  Last edited by senz_90; 03-08-2014, 08:13 PM.
                  "There is no shortcut to be successful. No pain, no gain."

                  Best Regards
                  Rudi
                  Thank You

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                  • Agent24
                    I see dead caps
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 4922
                    • New Zealand

                    #10
                    Re: Capacitor with no negative lead stripe

                    Thanks, yes I know about that site. Just couldn't find the article about the capacitors.

                    But, that page doesn't say anything about BP and NP being different. Also, as the article shows, he makes the NP capacitor out of two polarized capacitors, not two bipolar capacitors.
                    "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                    -David VanHorn

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                    • senz_90
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 328
                      • Indonesia

                      #11
                      Re: Capacitor with no negative lead stripe

                      Originally posted by Agent24
                      Thanks, yes I know about that site. Just couldn't find the article about the capacitors.

                      But, that page doesn't say anything about BP and NP being different. Also, as the article shows, he makes the NP capacitor out of two polarized capacitors, not two bipolar capacitors.
                      I'm sorry. I made mistake, I mean that makes NP/BP caps from two polarized caps. Yes, Bipolar is other name from Nonpolar caps, so that's "interchangeable". You know, sometimes wake up lately and get our brain need a time to process something

                      you can search on the content, there is title on it.
                      Last edited by senz_90; 03-09-2014, 04:40 AM.
                      "There is no shortcut to be successful. No pain, no gain."

                      Best Regards
                      Rudi
                      Thank You

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                      • Agent24
                        I see dead caps
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 4922
                        • New Zealand

                        #12
                        Re: Capacitor with no negative lead stripe

                        Originally posted by senz_90
                        I'm sorry. I made mistake, I mean that makes NP/BP caps from two polarized caps. Yes, Bipolar is other name from Nonpolar caps, so that's "interchangeable". You know, sometimes wake up lately and get our brain need a time to process something

                        you can search on the content, there is title on it.
                        No worries! I did try searching his site but there was some server error message and it didn't work, that's why I asked for the link.
                        "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                        -David VanHorn

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                        • Elysarian
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 200
                          • United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Re: Capacitor with no negative lead stripe

                          I use non-polarised caps all the time at work, they're a very common end of line device on conventional fire alarm systems.

                          and yes, we get plenty of bad ones! (mostly on Protec panels that have been in for a few years), commonly the symptoms are either zone faults or (if the thing goes leaky in just the right way) a zone randomly going into fire.

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                          • senz_90
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 328
                            • Indonesia

                            #14
                            Re: Capacitor with no negative lead stripe

                            Originally posted by Agent24
                            No worries! I did try searching his site but there was some server error message and it didn't work, that's why I asked for the link.
                            I don't know what you means by server error message, but i have not any problem try to searching it at google. the title of content is this Making Non-Polarized Capacitors from Normal Electrolytics
                            maybe this help.
                            "There is no shortcut to be successful. No pain, no gain."

                            Best Regards
                            Rudi
                            Thank You

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                            • Agent24
                              I see dead caps
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 4922
                              • New Zealand

                              #15
                              Re: Capacitor with no negative lead stripe

                              I was using the inbuilt search on the site, eg: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/cgi/...ar%20capacitor, just got "Internal Server Error" (You probably get it too if you try that link)

                              Could have searched Google, but I was feeling lazy, and you already had the link
                              "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                              -David VanHorn

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                              • Rulycat
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 724
                                • United Kingdom

                                #16
                                Re: Capacitor with no negative lead stripe

                                Originally posted by Pentium4
                                Yes, they definitely are but....

                                Is it just me or do Evercon seem to be the most "reliable" of the GSC/Sacon/Evercon company bundle?
                                It's all crap anyway. Thought they went bust.

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