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  • xformer
    Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 16

    #1

    Usb Noise

    Hi guys,

    Need your inputs about on how to measure noise in USB and how to remove it.Thanks in advance.
  • Uranium-235
    Comrade Glimmer
    • Aug 2007
    • 5042
    • US

    #2
    Re: Usb Noise

    you would measure it with a scope

    remove it with a higher grade filter cap with less ripple and lower ESR
    Cap Datasheet Depot: http://www.paullinebarger.net/DS/
    ^If you have datasheets not listed PM me

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    • Uranium-235
      Comrade Glimmer
      • Aug 2007
      • 5042
      • US

      #3
      Re: Usb Noise

      or USB cables that have a ferrite filter might help
      Cap Datasheet Depot: http://www.paullinebarger.net/DS/
      ^If you have datasheets not listed PM me

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      • xformer
        Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 16

        #4
        Re: Usb Noise

        thanks for the help

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        • japlytic
          Badcaps Legend
          • Oct 2005
          • 2086
          • Australia

          #5
          Re: Usb Noise

          For USB 2.0, you would need a high frequency scope with a USB tolerance indicator.
          My first choice in quality Japanese electrolytics is Nippon Chemi-Con, which has been in business since 1931... the quality of electronics is dependent on the quality of the electrolytics.

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          • sixer
            New Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 2

            #6
            Re: Usb Noise

            Series L, shunt C. Be careful the L you pick (and the C too) if you're going to put them in series with the D+/D- lines as you can add too much impedance and affect the USB signals. Try putting the filters on the power and ground first.

            Are you trying to prevent USB signals from radiating out, or prevent external RFI from getting in?

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            • xformer
              Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 16

              #7
              Re: Usb Noise

              Hi sixer, the answer is both.

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              • PCBONEZ
                Grumpy Old Fart
                • Aug 2005
                • 10661
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Usb Noise

                Are you worried about noise in the power or in the signal?
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                Using a cable with a ferrite would fix both.
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                • sixer
                  New Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 2

                  #9
                  Re: Usb Noise

                  xformer: I think some more information about your situation will help us help you here. Is this a product you are designing or a COTS product you have purchased? Are you having trouble passing FCC Part 15 or do you have some sort of interference/RFI problem that you are trying to mitigate? If so, what is the source of the offending radiation and/or what are the devices that this USB product is offending? What is the product in question (or at least the chipset)? Be verbose
                  Last edited by sixer; 11-03-2011, 11:00 AM. Reason: grammatical

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