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    Really really weird!!!

    First, a little story:
    OK so I plugged my Minecraft server in (it's been unplugged for a few days), and turned it on...
    The Foxconn splash screen, then: DISK BOOT ERROR ENTER SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER
    I was worried that my HDD was bad, but then I remembered that I had removed the two extra 250GB Seagate ES disks in there... Turns out I had unplugged the power from the IDE drive that's the boot drive and never plugged the power plug back in...
    So I fixed it, and tried to turn it on again.
    DISK BOOT ERROR ENTER SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER
    Shit!
    Went into the BIOS, did Restore Optimized Defaults, saved, tried again. Same thing.
    So I went back into the BIOS and went to boot settings thingy, and found that IDE0 master was the CD drive and IDE1 was a "Laxtnr 91GB"...WTF???
    I have a MAXTOR 100GB!!!
    So I closed BIOS, and let it sit and the DISK BOOT ERROR screen for a few minutes. Then I restarted, and this is the first time I've been happy to see Windows say that a boot file was corrupt and fail to start up. Why? Because that meant my hard drive wasn't a total goner! I rebooted and this time... SUCCESS!!!!!! Windows Server 2003...
    Great, I logged in, got to the desktop, and proceeded to plug my iomega 320GB USB hard drive (internally a Samsung drive) into the USB port.
    It didn't show up. WTF?
    so... it shows up in Computer Management>Disk Management but it has no drive letter assigned. Strange.
    Ejected it and tried it in another computer, it popped up fine!
    Dug out my 8GB SanDisk USB flash drive, plugged it in (it worked and showed up as E: and I copied my Miencraft files to it.
    Now I have backups.
    Now, the Question:
    WHAT THE HECK IS A LAXTNR 91GB DOING IN MY COMPUTER??? surely my Maxtor didn't take any laxatives?
    Seriously, what the heck happened?
    I'm going to try to restart this thing now and see what happens...
    Update:
    Upon shut down a cold boot it shows up in BIOS as a Maxtor 100GB like it's supposed to... and it boots up fine...
    OMG how weird
    Last edited by shovenose; 01-29-2012, 05:52 PM.
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    #2
    Re: Really really weird!!!

    Check your drive cable.

    'M' = 4d = 01001101
    'L' = 4c = 01001100

    'O' = 4f = 01001111
    'N' = 4e = 01001110

    Data line 0 is not working.

    http://pinouts.ws/ata-ide-pinout.html

    Check pin 17 of the cable for continuity.

    Edit: might be data line 8, it's 16 bits wide (2 bytes at a time) and I don't remember the order. Check pin 4 too.

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      #3
      Re: Really really weird!!!

      How the heck am I going to get my multimeter probes in there?
      A paperclip didn't work; I'm going to ask my mom for a needle

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        #4
        Re: Really really weird!!!

        Update: with the help of 2 sewing needles, I have come to the conclusion that pins 4, 17, and a few other random ones, check good for continuity (my multimeter beeps)

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          #5
          Re: Really really weird!!!

          All the leads you cut from capacitors and threw away... those fit in really well.
          sig files are for morons

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            #6
            Re: Really really weird!!!

            You have a failing drive. Corruption of the text displayed in the BIOS is common when the drive is on its last legs. Given that it's a Maxtor, i'd just throw it away.
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              #7
              Re: Really really weird!!!

              I set up my MC server so that every time a player goes on it asks them to donate money for a new case & HDD (the two things the server needs)... when I have those I'll be good to go

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                #8
                Re: Really really weird!!!

                More likely you jostled the cable and made a bad connection when you were in there screwing around.
                .
                Unplug the data cable on both ends that then put it back in...
                ... or try a different cable.
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                  #9
                  Re: Really really weird!!!

                  image it now.
                  thats the type of symptom reported before these eat their firmware.
                  i can rewrite it but is not even worth the postage both ways to save it.and i repair just to recover data.the bearings get worn and oops a miswrite.got one here to recover from an anliam 3300mk.
                  its got the hdd death scream from hell!

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                    #10
                    Re: Really really weird!!!

                    I hate Maxtor
                    I put in a new cable so it's working fine (even though it seemed fine with the old cable after I got it to boot. The tricky part was to get it to boot)...
                    I'll wait for somebody on the server to donate a hard drive or some $$ for one... as it's running OK right now...

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                      #11
                      Re: Really really weird!!!

                      Originally posted by shovenose View Post
                      "Laxtnr 91GB"
                      Wow, definitely looks like a bad IDE cable!

                      And unless it's a Maxtor whose model code is "6Exxxxx", they're good!
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                        #12
                        Re: Really really weird!!!

                        Originally posted by PCBONEZ View Post
                        More likely you jostled the cable and made a bad connection when you were in there screwing around.
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                          #13
                          Re: Really really weird!!!

                          Originally posted by PCBONEZ View Post
                          More likely you jostled the cable and made a bad connection when you were in there screwing around.
                          .
                          Unplug the data cable on both ends that then put it back in...
                          ... or try a different cable.
                          .
                          Yup.
                          Bad connection at a pin or one of the wires inside the ribbon broke when you flexed the cable moving it around.
                          .
                          #1 suspect when you've just worked inside the case and a drive starts screwing up.
                          .
                          .
                          Either test or get rid of that cable so if it's bad it doesn't find it's way back into something.
                          .
                          Mann-Made Global Warming.
                          - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.
                          -
                          Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
                          - Dr Seuss
                          -
                          You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                          -

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                            #14
                            Re: Really really weird!!!

                            Originally posted by Uranium-235 View Post
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Bwks3u5C0&t=0m5s
                            Yeah, that was along the lines of: "If it ain't broke don't fix it.".
                            .
                            Mann-Made Global Warming.
                            - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.
                            -
                            Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
                            - Dr Seuss
                            -
                            You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                            -

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                              #15
                              Re: Really really weird!!!

                              Originally posted by PCBONEZ View Post
                              Yup.
                              Bad connection at a pin or one of the wires inside the ribbon broke when you flexed the cable moving it around.
                              .
                              #1 suspect when you've just worked inside the case and a drive starts screwing up.
                              .
                              .
                              Either test or get rid of that cable so if it's bad it doesn't find it's way back into something.
                              .
                              The cable tested good but I'm going to get rid of it anyway.

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                                #16
                                Re: Really really weird!!!

                                Originally posted by shovenose View Post
                                The cable tested good but I'm going to get rid of it anyway.
                                The cable tested for continuity... it did NOT test good...
                                Ludicrous gibs!

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                                  #17
                                  Re: Really really weird!!!

                                  Originally posted by dood View Post
                                  The cable tested for continuity... it did NOT test good...
                                  What do you mean lol?

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                                    #18
                                    Re: Really really weird!!!

                                    Originally posted by shovenose View Post
                                    What do you mean lol?
                                    well, you tested form point A to point B.

                                    that is only half of it.

                                    what you didn't test was continuity to nearby wires. if it is shorted to another wire, then that could be an issue

                                    on that note, also make sure that there is low resistance where it should be connected... the controllers can be picky about signal strength...
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                                      #19
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                                      Or, just chuck the questionable cable... I haven't had to buy one in years, and I still have a plentiful supply of them
                                      Ludicrous gibs!

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