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  • datalore44
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    • Jan 2015
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    #21
    Re: Samsung UE22ES5000 Led tv no standby

    Resistance across cm867 is 7.2k, but across cm864 it starts at 3meg and eventually drops down to about 30k before going back up again.

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    • datalore44
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      #22
      Re: Samsung UE22ES5000 Led tv no standby

      Anymore help on this would be greatly appreciated.

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      • datalore44
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        #23
        Re: Samsung UE22ES5000 Led tv no standby

        I still need help on this if anyone can help it would be much appreciated.
        Alan

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #24
          Re: Samsung UE22ES5000 Led tv no standby

          Right now that 12V power supply section is not making any sense, the resistance of the first filter cap at the Cathode of DM861 is 30K so that should not load down the 12V output , and since the switched MOSFET (QM861) for the switched 12V should not be on unless PS-ON is present and the resistance of the filter cap CM867 is 7K2 Ohms so that is not problem either.
          What resistance do you get reading between the two leg of DM861 when it is soldered back into the board?
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          • datalore44
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            • Jan 2015
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            #25
            Re: Samsung UE22ES5000 Led tv no standby

            Hi budm and thank you for your help again. The readings across the diode DM861 is erratic. I get 295 ohm with negative on the cathode and from 3meg dropping to 7k then back up when positive is on the cathode. This board is driving me crazy.

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            • budm
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              • Feb 2010
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              #26
              Re: Samsung UE22ES5000 Led tv no standby

              That is strange reading of 295 Ohms.
              Can you un-solder the Source pin of switched 12V MOSFET (QM861) to see if 5V will be stable?
              It drives me crazy too since it is just simple always on power supply board.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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              TV Factory reset codes listing:
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              • datalore44
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                #27
                Re: Samsung UE22ES5000 Led tv no standby

                I got a reading of 2.4 to 2.7 volts.
                Do you think it has anything to do with the shunt regulator icm861 (top right on board TO-92 package) which is a kia431a?

                And how would I test it?
                Alan
                Last edited by datalore44; 12-09-2018, 08:59 AM.

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                • Davi.p
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                  • Sep 2009
                  • 4266
                  • Italy - Milan

                  #28
                  Re: Samsung UE22ES5000 Led tv no standby

                  Budm was meaning if A5v is stable... B5v is the switched one so if PWR-On signal malfunctions the gates of both smd power mosfets doesn't let output on-state tensions on the connector.. if A5V is stable (pin 12 output connector) then resolder source of QM861, desolder ZDQ851, make a jumper [P-ON]-GND and watch connector outputs, if ok replace the zener.

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                  • datalore44
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                    #29
                    Re: Samsung UE22ES5000 Led tv no standby

                    Originally posted by Davi.p
                    Budm was meaning if A5v is stable... B5v is the switched one so if PWR-On signal malfunctions the gates of both smd power mosfets doesn't let output on-state tensions on the connector.. if A5V is stable (pin 12 output connector) then resolder source of QM861, desolder ZDQ851, make a jumper [P-ON]-GND and watch connector outputs, if ok replace the zener.
                    Hi. Yes I took the reading from A5V. It is bouncing around at 2.4 to 2.7v

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                    • Davi.p
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                      • Sep 2009
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                      #30
                      Re: Samsung UE22ES5000 Led tv no standby

                      OK, you can: unsolder again DM861 cathode and connect a load of about 0,5-1A to the A5V, retest A5V, with and whitout load..
                      Last edited by Davi.p; 12-13-2018, 04:31 PM.

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                      • datalore44
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                        • Jan 2015
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                        #31
                        Re: Samsung UE22ES5000 Led tv no standby

                        How do I go about adding a 500ma load?
                        Last edited by datalore44; 12-13-2018, 04:34 PM.

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                        • Davi.p
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                          • Sep 2009
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                          #32
                          Re: Samsung UE22ES5000 Led tv no standby

                          5V/0,5A=2,5Ohm 3>5W resistor at the A5v output..

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                          • datalore44
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                            • Jan 2015
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                            #33
                            Re: Samsung UE22ES5000 Led tv no standby

                            Originally posted by Davi.p
                            5V/0,5A=2,5Ohm 3>5W resistor at the A5v output..
                            Ok I will have to dig around for a 3 to 5w resistor. I thought that 5/0.5 was 10 Ohms though. Or am I missing something.
                            Alan

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                            • budm
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                              • Feb 2010
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                              #34
                              Re: Samsung UE22ES5000 Led tv no standby

                              Must be typo, yes, it should be 10 Ohms so it will draw 0.50A from 5V supply.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • Davi.p
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 4266
                                • Italy - Milan

                                #35
                                Re: Samsung UE22ES5000 Led tv no standby

                                Sorry 10 ohms 10watt..

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                                • datalore44
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                                  • Jan 2015
                                  • 34
                                  • UK

                                  #36
                                  Re: Samsung UE22ES5000 Led tv no standby

                                  I have ordered the resistor and will update you when I have tested the circuit. Many thanks for all your help.

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                                  • Atavares
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                                    • Dec 2020
                                    • 2
                                    • Portugal

                                    #37
                                    Re: Samsung UE22ES5000 Led tv no standby

                                    Originally posted by R_J
                                    Did you replace CM808 capacitor?
                                    What number diode did you use to replace DM861?
                                    Check that QM861 is not shorted

                                    Also what is the voltage measured at the cathode of DM861

                                    Hi R_J!

                                    Do you know the ref. of the QM861, i have the same problem, but my QM is shorted.

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