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  • ngsss
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    • Sep 2018
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    #1

    LG 65UH7650 (4k UHD)

    I am new, so hopefully I don't sound like an idiot. I am looking for some help diagnosing this tv. I don't have picture but have a standby light on the front of tv. When I turn the power button on the back light does not come on. I cant seem to figure out where the standby is on the power supply to test volts. Attached is a picture of what im dealing with and the volts I am reading for each one. First Set of numbers is when tv OFF second set is when its ON.

    TV WAS IN A POWER SURGE WHEN THIS OCCURED


    OFF / ON
    0v / 2.2v
    0v / 6.4v
    2v / 55.9v
    0v / -5.2
    8.3 to 9.5v / 13.3v (first set of numbers keeps fluctuation up and down)
    8.3 to 9.3v /13.28v (first set of numbers keeps fluctuation up and down)
    0v / -5.4v
    0v /3.49v
    0v / -4.5v
    Attached Files
    Last edited by ngsss; 09-10-2018, 06:36 PM.
  • budm
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    • Feb 2010
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    #2
    Re: LG 65UH7650 (4k UHD)

    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...9&d=1536624905
    1) That connector has 18 pins, those pins you can see from the top side of the board are ODD number pins, the white dot indicate pin 1, so the next pin will be 3, 5, 7, 9, .....
    The EVEN number pins you cannot see from the top side of the board so you need to use skinny tip probe to probe from the wire entrance side of that female connector.
    2) Each pin has pin name so to get help from us you MUST put down the pin name and follow by the DC Voltage reading of each pin for us to easily see what each pin has when TV is OFF and when power switch is activated. As you can see: pin 1 is 'GND', pin 3 is 'PWR_ON', pin 5 is 'GND, pin 7 is 13.2V, ..............
    Last edited by budm; 09-10-2018, 09:38 PM.
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    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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    TV Factory reset codes listing:
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    • ngsss
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      • Sep 2018
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      #3
      Re: LG 65UH7650 (4k UHD)

      Thank you for the info! Here is what I have for volts with the tv plugged in not turned on. (I have a standby light showing on tv)


      PIN#s ---DC volts reading
      17/18 --- 0v / .1v
      15/16----0v / .1v
      13/14----2v / 0v
      11/12----0v / 0v
      9/10-----8.3 to 9.5v / 8.3 to 9.5v
      7/8------8.3 to 9.3v /8.3 to 9.5v
      5/6------0v / 8.3 to 9.5v
      3/4------0v /0v
      1/2------0v / 0v

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      • ngsss
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        #4
        Re: LG 65UH7650 (4k UHD)

        Vsync/s[n
        gnd/sclk
        drv_on/p-dim1
        gnd/gnd
        13.2v/13.2v
        13.2v/13.2v
        gnd/13.2v
        pwr_on/p-dim2
        gnd/gnd

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        • budm
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          • Feb 2010
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          #5
          Re: LG 65UH7650 (4k UHD)

          1) Is this your board, look at the barcode of shopjimmy and your board. LG EAY64210802 Power Supply / LED Driver Board. http://www.shopjimmy.com/lg-eay64210...ver-board.htm#
          2) Remove the cable between power supply and the main board then check to see if the 13.2V will come up to 13.2V or not.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • ngsss
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            • Sep 2018
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            #6
            Re: LG 65UH7650 (4k UHD)

            budm:
            Yes, that is the power supply I have.
            I removed the cable and it measured 9.8v-10v, in all (5) of the 13.2v ports

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            • R_J
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              • Jun 2012
              • 9568
              • Canada

              #7
              Re: LG 65UH7650 (4k UHD)

              That 13.2 might read low if the power supply is not turned on, there is no PWR_ON signal from the main board, I suspect the PWR_ON should be around 3-5 volts when the power button is pressed.
              The fault could be with the main board
              If you disconnect P201 from the main baord, you could try applying +3 volts to (J13 PWR_ON) , that should turn on the power supply if it is ok.
              Last edited by R_J; 09-12-2018, 11:43 AM.

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              • budm
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                • Feb 2010
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                #8
                Re: LG 65UH7650 (4k UHD)

                Originally posted by R_J
                That 13.2 might read low if the power supply is not turned on, there is no PWR_ON signal from the main board, I suspect the PWR_ON should be around 3-5 volts when the power button is pressed.
                The fault could be with the main board
                I believe you are correct, If I am correct, this LG may have lower Voltage when it is in standby and goes to full 13V when the power supply board receives the PS-ON to turn on the PFC and the rest of the power supply.
                So far the PS-ON (PWR_ON) and some other control signal are not present.
                Last edited by budm; 09-12-2018, 11:42 AM.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • ngsss
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                  • Sep 2018
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                  #9
                  Re: LG 65UH7650 (4k UHD)

                  Originally posted by budm
                  I believe you are correct, If I am correct, this LG may have lower Voltage when it is in standby and goes to full 13V when the power supply board receives the PS-ON to turn on the PFC and the rest of the power supply.
                  So far the PS-ON (PWR_ON) and some other control signal are not present.
                  So you both think the main board could be the issue? Is that what would be recommended to get?

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                  • ngsss
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                    • Sep 2018
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                    #10
                    Re: LG 65UH7650 (4k UHD)

                    When the tv is “on” the pwr_on reads 3.2v, all the 13.2 read 13.2v.

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                    • budm
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                      • Feb 2010
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                      #11
                      Re: LG 65UH7650 (4k UHD)

                      OK, I did not pay attention regarding the Voltages in post 3 with the TV OFF, so PS-ON is good, the power supply does come up to 13V when PS-ON is present so the main board is not completely dead.
                      So how about the DRV_ON and the Dim control signals when TV is turned on?
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • ngsss
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                        • Sep 2018
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                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: LG 65UH7650 (4k UHD)

                        Drv_on reads 56.5v, dim1 and dim2 reads 3.3v.
                        Last edited by ngsss; 09-12-2018, 07:52 PM.

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                        • budm
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                          #13
                          Re: LG 65UH7650 (4k UHD)

                          Originally posted by ngsss
                          Drv_on reads 56.5v, dim1 and dim2 reads 3.3v.
                          That must be an error, no way DRV_ON can be that high, 56.5V! Please retest.
                          Are you sure it is not 56.5mV?
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • ngsss
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                            • Sep 2018
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                            #14
                            Re: LG 65UH7650 (4k UHD)

                            Originally posted by budm
                            That must be an error, no way DRV_ON can be that high, 56.5V! Please retest.
                            Are you sure it is not 56.5mV?
                            budm, Yes, sorry you are correct. It is mV.

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                            • budm
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                              #15
                              Re: LG 65UH7650 (4k UHD)

                              Originally posted by ngsss
                              budm, Yes, sorry you are correct. It is mV.
                              That means the main board is not sending the DRV_ON (BL-ON) ti turn on the backlights circuits.
                              You can try force on the backlight by simulating the DRV_ON command signal using external 3V supply (use 2 AA batteries connected in series feeding to DRV_ON pin through 100 Ohms resistor) but you have to disconnect the DRV_ON wire going back to the main board first.
                              Last edited by budm; 09-13-2018, 11:12 AM.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • ngsss
                                Member
                                • Sep 2018
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                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: LG 65UH7650 (4k UHD)

                                Originally posted by budm
                                That means the main board is not sending the DRV_ON (BL-ON) ti turn on the backlights circuits.
                                You can try force on the backlight by simulating the DRV_ON command signal using external 3V supply (use 2 AA batteries connected in series feeding to DRV_ON pin through 100 Ohms resistor) but you have to disconnect the DRV_ON wire going back to the main board first.
                                OK, just made a series and the back lights did turn on.

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                                • budm
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                                  • Feb 2010
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                                  #17
                                  Re: LG 65UH7650 (4k UHD)

                                  OK, So now you do have lights source, then if everything else are OK with the main board, T-CON board, LCD panel then you should see pictures, if not, then you more problem then just missing DRV_ON signal.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • budwich
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                                    • Jul 2015
                                    • 3097
                                    • Canada

                                    #18
                                    Re: LG 65UH7650 (4k UHD)

                                    I know you have done lots of "good things" to determine source of the problem. Before going further, can you try the "easy test" (if you haven't already)... disconnect, one at time, the cables going from the tcon to the panel and see if it changes the results any. It might point you in a different direction. Not normally a failure as a result of a power surge BUT there are components that may not like that event and can be somewhat isolated with this test.

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                                    • ngsss
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                                      • Sep 2018
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                                      #19
                                      Re: LG 65UH7650 (4k UHD)

                                      OK, there is no picture present. When I disconnected the tcon one at a time. The right side flashed real bright like the tv was on, while the left side did nothing.

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                                      • budwich
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                                        • Jul 2015
                                        • 3097
                                        • Canada

                                        #20
                                        Re: LG 65UH7650 (4k UHD)

                                        sorry but I don't understand your observations / report. What cable was off and what was the display doing with respect to that side. Of course, you need to have something input or at least put up a menu perhaps to see something on the screen.
                                        Anyways, please restate your observations a bit better.

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