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    PWTV8K42ASA1 Visio Power Supply Testing

    Good morning everybody: How can I test subject PS outside the tv? Thanks
    This PS is for Vizio VA22LFHDTV10T

    #2
    Re: PWTV8K42ASA1 Visio Power Supply Testing

    This is how;
    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740
    We have no idea what you have EXACTLY.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      #3
      Re: PWTV8K42ASA1 Visio Power Supply Testing

      Dear friends: I'm sorry for the vague of my request. Next time will do my homework before posting.
      What we have here is a dead 22" inches Vizio tv model VA22LFHDTV10T. No standby, no red led....no nothing. As you may know this is a pwr sup./inverter board. It does power both, main board as well as the LEDs.
      TV started by first turning on and going off after a few minutes. Kept doing this for a couple of days....finally staying dead at all. Attached are board pics. Thanks for any help. Hope being more explicit will get to better troubleshooting.
      1. No buldged caps, no overheating signs, good fuse, good transformers, diodes, resistors, thyristor.
      Attached Files
      Last edited by torrespedroa; 05-18-2017, 02:21 PM.

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        #4
        Re: PWTV8K42ASA1 Visio Power Supply Testing

        What voltage dc do you have across main capacitor with board plugged in? Nice to have picture of connector and pin description. What voltages on pins?
        I assume no responsibility for any stupid suggestions I might post.

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          #5
          Re: PWTV8K42ASA1 Visio Power Supply Testing

          Originally posted by dskall View Post
          What voltage dc do you have across main capacitor with board plugged in? Nice to have picture of connector and pin description. What voltages on pins?
          Will get voltages readings later. Here is the connector pic. Thanks for your input.
          Attached Files

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            #6
            Re: PWTV8K42ASA1 Visio Power Supply Testing

            Originally posted by dskall View Post
            What voltage dc do you have across main capacitor with board plugged in? Nice to have picture of connector and pin description. What voltages on pins?
            Main cap voltage is 168DC

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              #7
              Re: PWTV8K42ASA1 Visio Power Supply Testing

              Originally posted by torrespedroa View Post
              Main cap voltage is 168DC
              Bridge rectifier working fine.

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                #8
                Re: PWTV8K42ASA1 Visio Power Supply Testing

                Can you also post a picture of the underneath of the board.
                What voltages if any do you have on CN902
                Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                  #9
                  Re: PWTV8K42ASA1 Visio Power Supply Testing

                  [QUOTE=dick_barton;746518]Can you also post a picture of the underneath of the board.
                  What voltages if any do you have on CN902[/QUOTE

                  Voltages on CN902
                  Ground to pin1=0
                  To pin 2=0
                  To pin 3=0
                  To pin 4=5VDC
                  To pin 5=5VDC
                  Pins 6-8 are ground
                  Ground to pin 9=12VDC
                  To pin 10=12VDC
                  To pin 11= N/C
                  To pin 12=0
                  Attached solder side pic.
                  Attached Files

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                    #10
                    Re: PWTV8K42ASA1 Visio Power Supply Testing

                    [QUOTE=torrespedroa;746525]
                    Originally posted by dick_barton View Post
                    Can you also post a picture of the underneath of the board.
                    What voltages if any do you have on CN902[/QUOTE

                    Voltages on CN902
                    Ground to pin1=0
                    To pin 2=0
                    To pin 3=0
                    To pin 4=5VDC
                    To pin 5=5VDC
                    Pins 6-8 are ground
                    Ground to pin 9=12VDC
                    To pin 10=12VDC
                    To pin 11= N/C
                    To pin 12=0
                    Attached solder side pic.

                    This pic. is better focused...
                    Attached Files

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                      #11
                      Re: PWTV8K42ASA1 Visio Power Supply Testing

                      That is an always on power supply and that power supply section is working fine otherwise you will not the 12V and the 5V.
                      Based on those DCV readings of the connector to the main board, it looks like the main board is not sending any command signal to turn on the backlights inverter circuit, and no backlights dimming signal either.
                      Did you take pictures of the whole monitor showing all the boards?
                      BTW in your post 9, always put the pin names of the connector so we can easily identify each pin as to what they are.
                      Last edited by budm; 05-18-2017, 06:58 PM.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        #12
                        Re: PWTV8K42ASA1 Visio Power Supply Testing

                        Thanks for all inputs. What two wires need to be jumped to activate the power to the LEDs ? I have a homemade CFL tester to conduct this test. Thanks. Is it ok to use a 1k oh ohms resistor as a jumper? Thanks

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                          #13
                          Re: PWTV8K42ASA1 Visio Power Supply Testing

                          Originally posted by budm View Post
                          That is an always on power supply and that power supply section is working fine otherwise you will not the 12V and the 5V.
                          Based on those DCV readings of the connector to the main board, it looks like the main board is not sending any command signal to turn on the backlights inverter circuit, and no backlights dimming signal either.
                          Did you take pictures of the whole monitor showing all the boards?
                          BTW in your post 9, always put the pin names of the connector so we can easily identify each pin as to what they are.

                          Does the main board have to do with the power/standby leds in from of the TV? There are No lights there. Thanks

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                            #14
                            Re: PWTV8K42ASA1 Visio Power Supply Testing

                            [QUOTE=torrespedroa;746525]
                            Originally posted by dick_barton View Post
                            Can you also post a picture of the underneath of the board.
                            What voltages if any do you have on CN902[/QUOTE

                            Voltages on CN902
                            Ground to pin1=0 Pin 1 PID
                            To pin 2=0. Pin 2 BL- ONN-OFF
                            To pin 3=0. Pin 3 Bright
                            To pin 4=5VDC. Pin 4 5v
                            To pin 5=5VDC. Pin 5 5v
                            Pins 6-8 are ground
                            Ground to pin 9=12VDC Pin 9 12v
                            To pin 10=12VDC. Pin 10 12v
                            To pin 11= N/C
                            To pin 12=0. Pin12 STANDBY
                            Attached solder side pic.

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                              #15
                              Re: PWTV8K42ASA1 Visio Power Supply Testing

                              Still looking how to manually turn on the high voltage section feeding the screen LEDs . Thanks.

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                                #16
                                Re: PWTV8K42ASA1 Visio Power Supply Testing

                                I believe you would need to jump pin2 to pin5 to turn on backlights
                                I assume no responsibility for any stupid suggestions I might post.

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                                  #17
                                  Re: PWTV8K42ASA1 Visio Power Supply Testing

                                  Originally posted by dskall View Post
                                  I believe you would need to jump pin2 to pin5 to turn on backlights
                                  Thanks, that's correct. Already did it by trial and error, but using logic. A positive signal has to be driven to on/off pin. Voltage reading wa 330 acv. Thanks again. This means the screen is a ctl, not LEDs. Voltage for LEDs is around 90 to 95 DCV, as seen on some other tvs I had repaired.

                                  Conclusion: There is not any signal from the main board to turn on the high voltage stage. Will look into it this week. Thanks to all that got interest in helping me out. As a matter of fact, there was a member that suggested that the problem was at the main board ( read all posts). My special appreciation to him. (That was budm) Post #11
                                  Last edited by torrespedroa; 05-21-2017, 07:37 AM.

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                                    #18
                                    Re: PWTV8K42ASA1 Visio Power Supply Testing

                                    Remove the connector to the main board first and then use 470~1K resistor between BL_ON pin and the pin 5 (5V) and see if the backlights will come on, if not it may need another resistor (same value) between pin 3 and pin 5 (5V).
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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