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    RCA L37WD12 won't power up

    I have this RCA L37WD12 that won't power on. the small 1W 5V stdby power supply is working. 5.1V stdby voltage is there.

    The power on signal from the scaler board is working. the small 1W 5V supply does supply 120vac to the main SMPS after hitting the power on button.

    however, at conn3, the +12 and the +24 are not reading correctly. pin 1 of conn3 reads about 1.9V instead of +12. pins 5 and 6 on conn3 read 19.0 volts instead of +24. pin 7 (blue wire) has 3.2V.

    I removed the 6 caps from the main SMPS board and have decided to replace them. they are capXon caps, 3 of them are 1000uf@16V, and the other 3 are 1000uf@35V and probably original to the board.

    I'd like to buy the Panasonic FR series from digikey. will the following caps be a good replacement?

    http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...466-ND/2433600

    http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...2CT-ND/3072212

    thanks guys.
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    #2
    Re: RCA L37WD12 won't power up

    UPDATE:

    replaced 6 caps, 3=1000uf 16V, and 3= 1000uf 35V. the caps were Panasonic FR series and I matched the exact uf and voltage ratings.

    no change in the powering on of the TV.

    stdby voltage 5.1V

    upon power on, led goes from red to green (ps clicks) and the led continually blinks green until I interrupt the power. dead set.

    AC 120V is being turned on to the main smps.

    voltages out at connector #3 are 3.6V for the +12V leg, and 21V for the +24V leg. consensus is the main smps not putting out the correct +12 and +24, right?

    can it be any other board of the set not allowing the voltages to come up?

    scaler board on far left has a blinking red led on it that just blinks on and off at a quick rate of change.

    I'd like to take a shot at troubleshooting the smps. since I have the AC going to the smps and incorrect voltages, where would I start to look for the trouble.

    thanks a bunch
    ilikesteel

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      #3
      Re: RCA L37WD12 won't power up

      Do you get close to 400VDC between the two legs of the main filter cap when TV is turned on?
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        #4
        Re: RCA L37WD12 won't power up

        thanks Budm.
        I haven't checked that. is that the large round cap which is on the HOT side of the power supply? I will check it in the morning. it may be tight to get the leads on the cap. will do my best and report back.

        thanks

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          #5
          Re: RCA L37WD12 won't power up

          Originally posted by ilikesteel View Post
          thanks Budm.
          I haven't checked that. is that the large round cap which is on the HOT side of the power supply? I will check it in the morning. it may be tight to get the leads on the cap. will do my best and report back.

          thanks
          Yes, we need to find out if the PFC Voltage booster circuit is working or not.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            #6
            Re: RCA L37WD12 won't power up

            Budm,

            180uf, 400V rated cap. looks like C3 in schematic. I got 360V across + and - leads. now what?

            thanks so much
            ilikesteel

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              #7
              Re: RCA L37WD12 won't power up

              Originally posted by ilikesteel View Post
              Budm,

              180uf, 400V rated cap. looks like C3 in schematic. I got 360V across + and - leads. now what?

              thanks so much
              ilikesteel
              Next step will be tracing the circuit and checking the 12V/24V SMPS section.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                #8
                Re: RCA L37WD12 won't power up

                Budm,
                do I need to post more pics of the top and bottom of the board for details. I assume the +360V is ok and not too low. where do I begin to trace?

                thanks
                ilikesteel

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                  #9
                  Re: RCA L37WD12 won't power up

                  http://www.shopjimmy.com/rca-272062-power-supply.htm
                  Is this the one you have?
                  RCA 272062 (JSK3220-007D, JSK3220-007B) Power Supply
                  Pictures provided by shopjimmy
                  Attached Files
                  Last edited by budm; 01-08-2016, 04:41 PM.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    #10
                    Re: RCA L37WD12 won't power up

                    Budm,
                    Yes, That's the one. I was going to try and get some voltage readings on the cold side of the T1. not sure what to expect. the schematic I have does not show voltages except for the output of the +5, +12 and the +24. just give me a place to start.

                    thanks,
                    ilikesteel

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                      #11
                      Re: RCA L37WD12 won't power up

                      Originally posted by ilikesteel View Post
                      Budm,
                      Yes, That's the one. I was going to try and get some voltage readings on the cold side of the T1. not sure what to expect. the schematic I have does not show voltages except for the output of the +5, +12 and the +24. just give me a place to start.

                      thanks,
                      ilikesteel
                      OK, good, now I have good picture of the bottom side of the board from SJ for me to trace the circuit, but I do need good hi res straight shot of the top side.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        #12
                        Re: RCA L37WD12 won't power up

                        Budm,
                        The very 1st pic on post 1 is of the top of the board. I just took some pics of the board in sections trying to get some close ups. I also tried to identify some of the components mounted to the black heat sinks on both sides of the supply.

                        The following are mounted on the black heat sinks. some are isolated from the heatsink.

                        Q2, Q4 and Q10 are all FOPF 13N50C
                        D4 N6D-FSU10A60
                        DS3, DS5 MBR-20100 FCT AKA ac0160 (?)
                        DS2,DS4 MBR-20150 CT AKA AC0529
                        could not quite read Q12, but it's marked with SIRECT MBR -xxxxxxx

                        most are marked with the name SIRECT

                        IC1 INFINEON
                        TDA 16888
                        P V0617601K15
                        G0610L

                        T1 BCK50298S

                        Thanks
                        ilikesteel
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                          #13
                          Re: RCA L37WD12 won't power up

                          "bump"

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                            #14
                            Re: RCA L37WD12 won't power up

                            I did not get any where with it last night, I spent over an hours looking at the pictures, the board is really crowded so it hard to trace the connections.
                            BTW, you can see over heated SMD resistors/cap for the snubber drive circuit.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              #15
                              Re: RCA L37WD12 won't power up

                              Budm
                              oh oh, now what?

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                                #16
                                Re: RCA L37WD12 won't power up

                                "BUMP"
                                Budm,

                                during this past week while bad-caps was unavailable, I went over the PS board. I took resistance measurements of most of the diodes. transformers, mosfets, and the shottkey barrier diodes. I didn't see any obvious shorts or opens.

                                the last useful test I made was across the main cap which showed 360V. I'd like to take more voltage readings, but I'm not sure what correct voltages should be and exactly where to check them. can I make useful tests on the secondary side of transformer T1? The output voltages haven't changed, +20V on the +24 rail and +2V on the +12 rail.

                                what part of the circuit would affect the +12 and +24 outputs? should be something common to both, right? this is the furthest I've checked on a PS. I'm willing to do more with some direction.

                                Thanks,

                                ilikesteel

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                                  #17
                                  Re: RCA L37WD12 won't power up

                                  Another "BUMP"

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                                    #18
                                    Re: RCA L37WD12 won't power up

                                    Another "BUMP"

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                                      #19
                                      Re: RCA L37WD12 won't power up

                                      Another "BUMP"

                                      Thanks

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                                        #20
                                        Re: RCA L37WD12 won't power up

                                        Another "BUMP"

                                        thanks

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