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  • zacheriaj
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 138
    • United States

    #1

    Seiki SE50FY10 sound no picture, NEW main board

    When I got this unit from the customer, it had sound and no backlight. PSU tested fine and when you pressed power, the light would turn blue as if it were on but no backlight. I figured the main board was out. Bought a new one from SJ and has the same symptoms. And to minimize questions, I did ensure that part numbers and panel numbers were the same. Any ideas?
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  • budm
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    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Seiki SE50FY10 sound no picture, NEW main board

    Please upload the pictures of the whole back side of the TV so we can see how all the boards are connected together.
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    • zacheriaj
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      • Jan 2014
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      #3
      Re: Seiki SE50FY10 sound no picture, NEW main board

      here are the boards

      Originally posted by budm
      Please upload the pictures of the whole back side of the TV so we can see how all the boards are connected together.
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      • dkneyle
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        • Dec 2013
        • 441
        • Australia

        #4
        Re: Seiki SE50FY10 sound no picture, NEW main board

        What makes you think the backlights are OK? That would be the next place I'd be going. Not sure why you initially diagnosed mainboard? Is this a LED LCD TV? If it is I'd say you have a failed LED in the backlight.
        Ah YES. I just looked at the power supply board. Know it very well. This TV sells here in Oz as a Palsonic. Crap. You'll find you have a failed LED in the string. I've just sold a LED string to a guy with the same fault, cannibalised from my TV that I couldn't repair because I couldn't get a LED string. If you want to risk opening the panel up carefully you can repair it, but they are such cheap TVs with further LEDs likely to fail you have to ask yourself if it's work the effort.
        Last edited by dkneyle; 12-14-2015, 09:20 PM.

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        • zacheriaj
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2014
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          #5
          Re: Seiki SE50FY10 sound no picture, NEW main board

          Originally posted by dkneyle
          What makes you think the backlights are OK? That would be the next place I'd be going. Not sure why you initially diagnosed mainboard? Is this a LED LCD TV? If it is I'd say you have a failed LED in the backlight.
          LED. With the PSU being tested OK, minus the BL on from main board, I assumed the EEPROM was at fault on the main. Replaced EEPROM, and the tv did nothing. Contacted SJ and they sent a replacement EEPROM at the same time I received the new Main board. with the new main board in, it's back to the TV turning on except for backlight. Is there a way to test the backlights?
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          • dkneyle
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            • Dec 2013
            • 441
            • Australia

            #6
            Re: Seiki SE50FY10 sound no picture, NEW main board

            By the way, anyone else fault finding a TV with similar symptoms, always do the flash light test first. If you have sound and no flashing fault codes etc then it is likely you have a picture but no backlighting. In this TV the voltage across the string is about 120VDC. If that is coming out of the power supply then it dismisses power supply as being the problem.

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            • zacheriaj
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2014
              • 138
              • United States

              #7
              Re: Seiki SE50FY10 sound no picture, NEW main board

              flashlight test was fine. simply no backlight.
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              • budm
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                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Seiki SE50FY10 sound no picture, NEW main board

                Check the DCV between the Red wire of the LED connector CON 11 and GND to see what you have when TV is turn on.
                The LED strings are connected in series, the first string is on CON 11.
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                Pictures provided by shopjmmy.
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                Last edited by budm; 12-14-2015, 09:57 PM.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • zacheriaj
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2014
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                  • United States

                  #9
                  Re: Seiki SE50FY10 sound no picture, NEW main board

                  Originally posted by budm
                  check the dcv between the red wire of the led connector con 11 and gnd to see what you have when tv is turn on.
                  The led strings are connected in series, the first string is on con 11.
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                  pictures provided by shopjmmy.
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                  • budm
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                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Seiki SE50FY10 sound no picture, NEW main board

                    You have open circuit in the LED strings.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • zacheriaj
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 138
                      • United States

                      #11
                      Re: Seiki SE50FY10 sound no picture, NEW main board

                      Originally posted by budm
                      You have open circuit in the LED strings.
                      That voltage compared to chassis ground. Yikes. I was afraid of that. Looks like I'll be eating the cost on this one. Thank you BUDM. I learn something new from you on every repair.
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                      • gtc526
                        New Member
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 4
                        • United States

                        #12
                        Re: Seiki SE50FY10 sound no picture, NEW main board

                        Originally posted by budm
                        You have open circuit in the LED strings.
                        Thanks budm....I also researched this same problem and stumbled upon this thread. You were correct as well for my issue.

                        Did the flashlight test (saw picture). Tested voltage at COM11 (120V). Took apart panel and seen browning around some of the LED lights on the front of strips. Took the strips off and seen the burnt marks on the back of a few strips. One was more obvious than others. It looked like all five strips were about ready to go. I uploaded pics of the strips.

                        Question:
                        Would it be worth to strip down the working parts and sell them individually on Ebay or would it not be worth my time? I paid $195 for this TV on BF 2013 so I'm not out much and I got 2 1/2 years out of it. Lesson learned though to buy a warranty on the cheapo ones. My LG nd Sammy had warranties, but never any issues.

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                        • gtc526
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                          • Apr 2016
                          • 4
                          • United States

                          #13
                          Re: Seiki SE50FY10 sound no picture, NEW main board

                          Pictures of LED Strips

                          L9 seems to be the main culprit on the smaller strip

                          L6 looks like it's going on on every single large strip with one also having a burnt mark on L4

                          On just about every strip on the front side you can see some level of discoloration







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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Seiki SE50FY10 sound no picture, NEW main board

                            It looks like they got hot, so you need to test ALL the LEDs.
                            reeceyburger123 has the video on how to test them.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • ReeceyBurger123
                              Never Give Up !
                              • May 2014
                              • 7325
                              • Britain

                              #15
                              Re: Seiki SE50FY10 sound no picture, NEW main board

                              Cheers bud, here is the link to the video on repairing and testing Leds:

                              https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RxwdC7V5Ue0
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                              • gtc526
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                                • Apr 2016
                                • 4
                                • United States

                                #16
                                Re: Seiki SE50FY10 sound no picture, NEW main board

                                Originally posted by budm
                                It looks like they got hot, so you need to test ALL the LEDs.
                                reeceyburger123 has the video on how to test them.
                                Thanks for the response, but I already stripped down everything after I cracked the panel. Even if I didn't I think it wouldn't be worth the time and effort looking at how many LEDs would be problematic in the near future and would have to redo the process again.

                                Would it be worth my time though to sell these parts individually? Like I said before, I only paid $195 for the TV so the hit isn't that bad since I got 2 1/2 years out the thing, but if I can make any money off the parts then that would be a bonus.
                                Last edited by gtc526; 04-13-2016, 12:56 PM.

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                                • ReeceyBurger123
                                  Never Give Up !
                                  • May 2014
                                  • 7325
                                  • Britain

                                  #17
                                  Re: Seiki SE50FY10 sound no picture, NEW main board

                                  Well I have had Led Tv's which I have repaired the backlight on sold for 1year and 5 months to be exact and not had one come back and seeing as it only lasted 2 years before it first failed its not that bad. Also I have done over 50 so far not one come back yet..... How did you crack the screen too ? I have never accidentally cracked one at all. Just dont see how people do it lol
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                                  • gtc526
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                                    • Apr 2016
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Seiki SE50FY10 sound no picture, NEW main board

                                    Originally posted by ReeceyBurger123
                                    Well I have had Led Tv's which I have repaired the backlight on sold for 1year and 5 months to be exact and not had one come back and seeing as it only lasted 2 years before it first failed its not that bad. Also I have done over 50 so far not one come back yet..... How did you crack the screen too ? I have never accidentally cracked one at all. Just dont see how people do it lol
                                    I had a tape measure (heavy duty) sitting on the counter and knocked it off by accident. Bounced perfectly onto where I had the panel laying and hit the corner and spiderwebbed a section. Into the it went.

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                                    • iSellHomes
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                                      • Jan 2017
                                      • 1
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Seiki SE50FY10 no picture or sound, NEW main board

                                      Hello all, I have a Seiki SE50FY10 LED TV will no sound or video. The power board, MIP550d-5TB, is sending out 11.3V to the main board. Is that within spec and I should replace the Main Board, CV3393BH-F, or is that an indication my power board is bad?
                                      Thanks for any help.

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                                      • web5
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                                        • Apr 2017
                                        • 21
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Seiki SE50FY10 sound no picture, NEW main board

                                        Hi, my SE50FY10 today stoped working, boots and operate as usual, i can see the picture with flashlight, but no backlights.
                                        It started a few days ago with blinking at start, and sometimes started normally with backlight. But today not blinking at start but still can see picture with flashlight.
                                        Please help.

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