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  • Langston
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    • Oct 2015
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    #1

    JVC JLC42BC3000 screen froze on "JVC" logo.

    Hi, I'm trying to repair the logic board " 3642-1302-0150 " on my JVC LCD tv. I'm looking for any help possible. I've repaired another in the past by mailing off the logic board but I'm more interested in learning how to repair it myself. I have the back cover removed, multi-meter, pencil, paper, and a double shot of espresso ready in hand. I do not see any puffed capacitors or burn marks. Currently the screen lights up and the JVC logo sits in the screen. No buttons work and TV only powers down if I unplug it. Where should I start? Thank you in advance-
    Langston
    Last edited by Langston; 10-08-2015, 02:43 PM.
  • Langston
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    • Oct 2015
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    #2
    Re: JVC JLC42BC3000 screen froze on "JVC" logo.

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #3
      Re: JVC JLC42BC3000 screen froze on "JVC" logo.

      http://www.shopjimmy.com/catalogsear...VC+JLC42BC3000

      There are at least two fuses on that main board that I can see, also Voltage regulator ICs that you need to check.

      Pictures provided by shopjimmy.
      Read the link below my signature on how to test and report the readings that will be easy for us to understand.
      BTW, the main board is made by AMTRAN which is the same company that makes board for VIZIO which has history of bad Voltage regulators 1117 series. This JVC is just a rebadged.
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      Last edited by budm; 10-08-2015, 03:39 PM.
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • Langston
        Member
        • Oct 2015
        • 16
        • United States

        #4
        Re: JVC JLC42BC3000 screen froze on "JVC" logo.

        Originally posted by Langston
        Hi, I'm trying to repair the logic board " 3642-1302-0150 " on my JVC LCD tv. I'm looking for any help possible. I've repaired another in the past by mailing off the logic board but I'm more interested in learning how to repair it myself. I have the back cover removed, multi-meter, pencil, paper, and a double shot of espresso ready in hand. I do not see any puffed capacitors or burn marks. Currently the screen lights up and the JVC logo sits in the screen. No buttons work and TV only powers down if I unplug it. Where should I start? Thank you in advance-
        Langston
        Originally posted by budm
        http://www.shopjimmy.com/catalogsear...VC+JLC42BC3000

        There are at least two fuses on that main board that I can see, also Voltage regulator ICs that you need to check.

        Pictures provided by shopjimmy.
        Read the link below my signature on how to test and report the readings that will be easy for us to understand.
        BTW, the main board is made by AMTRAN which is the same company that makes board for VIZIO which has history of bad Voltage regulators 1117 series. This JVC is just a rebadged.

        Thank you budm. I assume the fuses your talking about are F1 and F2?

        F1=5.28VDC on both sides of gold terminals
        F2=12.29VDC on both sides of gold terminals

        These are the voltage regulators that I located, there may be more that I'm not seeing.
        1084-VI= 5.22VDC VO=3.28VDC GND=2.05VDC (U5)
        1117 #U9: In=5.23VDC Out=3.28VDC ADJ=2.02
        1117 #U3: In=5.26VDC Out=3.29VDC ADJ=2.04
        949D32: In=12.25VDC GRN=0.00 Out=5.04 (U17)
        Also (U5) 1084 only has 2 of the 3 pins attached to the board. I've attached a picture showing this. the voltage on the detach and on the solder point are both the same. It may be designed this way.

        Here are the voltages for the 14 pin connecter:

        VBR_B - 3.22VDC - Orange

        Status - 0.0VDC - Red

        On/Off - 2.63 - Brown

        On/Off - 3.18 - Black

        12V - 12.27 VDC - White

        12V - 12.27 VDS - Grey

        12v - 12.26 - Purple

        GND - 0.01VDC -Blue

        GND - 0.01 VDS - Green

        GND - 0.01 VDC - Yellow

        GND - 0.01VDC - Orange
        5.2VSB - 5.8 VDC - Red

        5.2VSB - 5.29 VDC - Brown

        5.2VSB - 5.28VDC - Black
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        • CapLeaker
          Leaking Member
          • Dec 2014
          • 7976
          • Canada

          #5
          Re: JVC JLC42BC3000 screen froze on "JVC" logo.

          you have an ESR meter or an oscilloscope to check the caps?

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: JVC JLC42BC3000 screen froze on "JVC" logo.

            "5.2VSB - 5.8 VDC - Red" This one is probably an error because the other two are the same.
            Your Voltages look normal but I do not know what the status pin is should be HIGH or LO for normal operation, right now it is sitting LO.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • retiredcaps
              Badcaps Legend
              • Apr 2010
              • 9271

              #7
              Re: JVC JLC42BC3000 screen froze on "JVC" logo.

              One ebay seller sells a service to repair the main board with exact symptoms. OP might want to send an ebay PM asking what part is replaced? Eeprom? main IC?

              http://www.ebay.com/itm/252044041215

              Shopjimmy, when searching for 3642-1542-0150 returns, (possibly an eeprom problem)

              http://www.ebay.com/itm/251317871119

              Caps on main board still could be bad and have too much ripple which might have caused the eeprom to go corrupt?
              Last edited by retiredcaps; 10-08-2015, 07:09 PM.
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              • retiredcaps
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                • Apr 2010
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                #8
                Re: JVC JLC42BC3000 screen froze on "JVC" logo.

                Originally posted by budm
                BTW, the main board is made by AMTRAN which is the same company that makes board for VIZIO which has history of bad Voltage regulators 1117 series. This JVC is just a rebadged.
                Vizio also has numerous eeprom problems.
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                • Langston
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                  • Oct 2015
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                  • United States

                  #9
                  Re: JVC JLC42BC3000 screen froze on "JVC" logo.

                  Thanks everyone for the replies. After doing some more digging it seems it most likely is an eeprom issue. I called shop jimmy to try and purchase one but they do not carry them. They also said given the symptoms its most definitely an eeprom. I think I see several eeprom's on the main board but I'm not sure. Is there a way to test them to see which is faulty? Do I just start shooting in the dark and replacing one by one? Is there a inexpensive reliable source for these? Thanks again!
                  D-

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                  • vinceroger69
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 6714
                    • uk

                    #10
                    Re: JVC JLC42BC3000 screen froze on "JVC" logo.

                    maybe send these a email see if they do one for your main board
                    http://www.ebay.com/itm/EEPROM-FOR-J...item3a814cdf0e
                    Last edited by vinceroger69; 10-09-2015, 01:42 PM.

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                    • Langston
                      Member
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 16
                      • United States

                      #11
                      Re: JVC JLC42BC3000 screen froze on "JVC" logo.

                      Originally posted by vinceroger69
                      maybe send these a email see if they do one for your main board
                      http://www.ebay.com/itm/EEPROM-FOR-J...item3a814cdf0e
                      Thanks! I sent them a message this morning. Is it possible to test an eeprom with a multi-meter?

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                      • vinceroger69
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 6714
                        • uk

                        #12
                        Re: JVC JLC42BC3000 screen froze on "JVC" logo.

                        not that i know of? they store user data etc, so come pre programmed etc although some times you can re programme them yourself.

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                        • Langston
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                          • Oct 2015
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                          • United States

                          #13
                          Re: JVC JLC42BC3000 screen froze on "JVC" logo.

                          I was able to talk to Ablemantv but as suspected this is how they make a living and he is not willing to tell me the solution. Also they do not sell an eeprom for this tv. I really don't want to give up but Im running out of options..

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                          • CapLeaker
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                            • Dec 2014
                            • 7976
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                            #14
                            Re: JVC JLC42BC3000 screen froze on "JVC" logo.

                            try to freeze the eeprom (can of air upside down) and turn the TV on. See what happens...

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                            • Langston
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                              • Oct 2015
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                              #15
                              Re: JVC JLC42BC3000 screen froze on "JVC" logo.

                              Originally posted by CapLeaker
                              try to freeze the eeprom (can of air upside down) and turn the TV on. See what happens...
                              Your on to something! I first tried freezing the eeproms (or what I think are the eeproms) and no luck so in frustration I sprayed the entire board plugged it in and the logo went away and it went on to "no signal" and worked perfectly. I used the power off button and it turned off normally. No again it is stuck on the Jvc logo. I tried to isolate the problem by freezing in sections and trying to turn it on but no luck. What could this mean? Thanks!

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                              • CapLeaker
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                                • Dec 2014
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                                #16
                                Re: JVC JLC42BC3000 screen froze on "JVC" logo.

                                an eeprom MAY work again if cooled good enough. That trick doesn't work on every eeprom, but it does work on a large percentage. You can apply that trick too on a bad eeprom that you want to read out and then program a new eeprom with the retrieved data. So you don't need to go ".bin" hunting.

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                                • Langston
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                                  • Oct 2015
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                                  #17
                                  Re: JVC JLC42BC3000 screen froze on "JVC" logo.

                                  Originally posted by CapLeaker
                                  an eeprom MAY work again if cooled good enough. That trick doesn't work on every eeprom, but it does work on a large percentage. You can apply that trick too on a bad eeprom that you want to read out and then program a new eeprom with the retrieved data. So you don't need to go ".bin" hunting.
                                  I've isolated the area to this corner of the board near the HDMI inputs. Still can't pinpoint the exact problem. If I freeze individual components it doesn't boot but if I freeze the whole corner it boots and works properly. Any idea what component would be fixed by freezing on this corner?
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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: JVC JLC42BC3000 screen froze on "JVC" logo.

                                    I wonder if the HDMI chip is locking up the processor. How hot does the chip get?
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • Langston
                                      Member
                                      • Oct 2015
                                      • 16
                                      • United States

                                      #19
                                      Re: JVC JLC42BC3000 screen froze on "JVC" logo.

                                      Originally posted by budm
                                      I wonder if the HDMI chip is locking up the processor. How hot does the chip get?
                                      Thanks budm, Which is the HDMI chip in the picture you provided from shopjimmy? Also what is the round (capacitor??) CE39?

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: JVC JLC42BC3000 screen froze on "JVC" logo.

                                        U18 (80-PIN IC), what is the P/N as printed on the top of the IC?
                                        CE39 is the SMD lytics cap.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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