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  • ReeceyBurger123
    Never Give Up !
    • May 2014
    • 7325
    • Britain

    #21
    Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

    No worries, btw you did order the one for that screen right ? As you cant just use any old 17ips20 in there.
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    • Leslie W
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      • Jul 2016
      • 7
      • UK

      #22
      Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

      Hi Reece Yes I read about the multitude of boards I got the number 23145828 off the board. TV is now fixed, also tuned the backlght to low as recommended by your good self.

      I think I might have a go at repairing the old board as a learning experience. I will start tomorrow by checking all the diodes. I have a multimeter and I can solder.

      Obviously the wheatstone bridge is working as I have 118 volts DC at the led connector. What else might be u/s in the pwm other than the diodes?

      By the way thanks so much for your help my mrs is over the moon.

      Best Regards

      Les.

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      • ReeceyBurger123
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        • May 2014
        • 7325
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        #23
        Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

        Awesome work glad it worked for you Also the fix would probably be to replace the led driver/controller also theres a few resistors for it that can go leaky will see if I can find the SM.
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        • Leslie W
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          • Jul 2016
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          • UK

          #24
          Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

          Cheers Reece you are a star!

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          • ReeceyBurger123
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            • May 2014
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            #25
            Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

            No worries, cant seem to find it though will have a check shortly. If not find the parts/repair kit for it
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            • vinceroger69
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              • Mar 2012
              • 6714
              • uk

              #26
              Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

              this kit reece seller flocko on this site
              http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Vestal-17IPS1.../252437754233?

              im sure flocko will know which resistors they are as he mentions them in his add
              Last edited by vinceroger69; 07-07-2016, 09:55 AM.

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              • ReeceyBurger123
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                • May 2014
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                #27
                Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                Sweet cheers Vince cant find the Sm now I had it a few days ago though
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                • flocko
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                  • Nov 2012
                  • 1121
                  • uk

                  #28
                  Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                  To repair the LED output side of the 17IPS20 you must look up the datasheet for the MP3394S 4 string driver to see how it works. check all SMD resistors around the driver for value and any that show to be outside of 5% should be replaced. I cannot give you any values as they change with the size of set and the number of LEDs per string. If you do change the driver (U500) I would also change the mosfet (Q502) Hope this is of help Flocko

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                  • vinceroger69
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 6714
                    • uk

                    #29
                    Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                    Thanks flocko for your input also this mayhelp too
                    https://www.monolithicpower.com/Desk...cument?id=1263

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                    • crt man
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 106
                      • England

                      #30
                      Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                      Originally posted by ReeceyBurger123
                      Yes then you have a backlight fault then, the Psu is fine if it goes up then drops. Take the panel apart and test the Leds as shown in the video.
                      Just an update on this took panel apart,
                      and there was 17 led's out including one
                      complete strip plus the rest have varied
                      degrees of brightness. Unfortunately the
                      panel got a crack so off to the tip with it.

                      Alan

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                      • ReeceyBurger123
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                        • May 2014
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                        #31
                        Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                        Dam it lol worth a shot anyway
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                        • Leslie W
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                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7
                          • UK

                          #32
                          Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                          Hi Reece,

                          I don't fancy my chances of soldering that kit on my board. I don,t remember you fixing one that way on your videos!

                          Anyway I have checked the diodes and:
                          D208 short

                          D209 short - these are the three together
                          D226 short
                          D225 short

                          D504 short - the one in the corner nearest led output

                          This looks similar to a fix in one of your vids.

                          What do you think?

                          Les.

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                          • ReeceyBurger123
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                            #33
                            Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                            Yeah you will need the repair kit as Vince linked
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                            • Boberko
                              New Member
                              • Oct 2016
                              • 2
                              • Slovensko

                              #34
                              Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                              Hi, i have a durabase tv DL40f180x2 with board 17ips20.
                              boad i tv is completly dead. Fusion F101 is blow and whole board is dead. I thing i try repair kit DEAD - q301 s/c

                              I buy second one, but seller send me diferent as i have. If i give it to tv, stanby diod is light. When i turn on tv, standby led is flashing.

                              Any idead what is wrong in first or second one board?

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                              • formant84
                                Member
                                • Nov 2016
                                • 13
                                • uk

                                #35
                                Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                                Hi Sorry to hijack this thread but I have an ISIS branded 39" tv with this power board and I have the weirdest problem. When I press the power button, the power/standby light comes on and power goes to the logic board because my laptop detects the display over HDMI.

                                But when I press the power button again, the laptop can not longer detect the TV but suddenly it powers up the LEDs, going up to about 190v then down to a steady 115.5v

                                So basically it seems to power each part of the TV alternately, but not at the same time!

                                Any suggestions? I'm stumped.

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                                • formant84
                                  Member
                                  • Nov 2016
                                  • 13
                                  • uk

                                  #36
                                  Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                                  UPDATE: The thought occurs that it's not powering down the logic board, but maybe exiting standby mode causes a fault either in the power going to the logic board or on the logic board itself? The logic board is a vestel 17MB55.

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                                  • formant84
                                    Member
                                    • Nov 2016
                                    • 13
                                    • uk

                                    #37
                                    Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                                    Further update:

                                    Okay there was a problem with my hdmi adapter. The computer now detects that the to is connected but I get no picture or sound. Voltage to LEDs is okay, backlight seems to come on but rather dimly. Tried shining a torch at the screen, no sign of any kind of image.

                                    Could this be the power board? Or am I looking at a logic board issue?

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                                    • vinceroger69
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Mar 2012
                                      • 6714
                                      • uk

                                      #38
                                      Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                                      have you tested the leds individually with a power souce? maybe you have some shorted/failing

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                                      • formant84
                                        Member
                                        • Nov 2016
                                        • 13
                                        • uk

                                        #39
                                        Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                                        Yeah I realised that i had no picture or sound because it hadn't auto-selected the input like i thought it would *facepalm*

                                        It's definitely the LEDs, but it seems like a LOT are gone. There are five strips of 9, so far i've tested three strips and found 8 working LEDs out of 27 :/

                                        Is there anywhere to buy the SMD LEDs cheaply without having to buy the full strips?

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                                        • vinceroger69
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Mar 2012
                                          • 6714
                                          • uk

                                          #40
                                          Re: 17ips20 diagnosing

                                          that seems a lot of leds too be gone in one go have you got a picture of the led strips and any writing on them? depending if your in a rush for the leds theres some from hong kong or china a lot of people use i will see if i can find the link

                                          i think its these im sure budm will confirm
                                          https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LG-L...5-93396de54953

                                          or in the uk but only 15 peice
                                          http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VESTEL-VES...3D252304716100
                                          Last edited by vinceroger69; 11-20-2016, 08:02 AM.

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