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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #21
    Re: No Stdby Light Samsung Ue46d5000

    Right we know that we have the power supply board problem (no other boards connected to the power supply board) due to fluctuating A5V which looks like it is caused by excessive current draw by the IC.
    We still do not know if you have the main board problem or not.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • Fritz23
      Member
      • Feb 2015
      • 45
      • Germany

      #22
      Re: No Stdby Light Samsung Ue46d5000

      So I bought a new ICM801 and replaced it.
      A5V is unstable and the clicking noise is still there.

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #23
        Re: No Stdby Light Samsung Ue46d5000

        Originally posted by Fritz23
        So I bought a new ICM801 and replaced it.
        A5V is unstable and the clicking noise is still there.
        So the A5V is still unstable when no other board connected to it, right?
        Need to look further in that section where the ICM801 is. I will have to look at the diagram further.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • Fritz23
          Member
          • Feb 2015
          • 45
          • Germany

          #24
          Re: No Stdby Light Samsung Ue46d5000

          Originally posted by budm
          So the A5V is still unstable when no other board connected to it, right?
          Need to look further in that section where the ICM801 is. I will have to look at the diagram further.
          Correct. Thank you

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #25
            Re: No Stdby Light Samsung Ue46d5000

            Do you have some caps in stock?
            I would like you to replace cap CM812 (10uf 50V), CS805 (47uF 50V) to see if the A5V will become steady.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • Fritz23
              Member
              • Feb 2015
              • 45
              • Germany

              #26
              Re: No Stdby Light Samsung Ue46d5000

              Sadly I don't have these in stock, but I can order some.
              Do they need to be any Low ESR type or something?
              How will CS805 influence it?

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #27
                Re: No Stdby Light Samsung Ue46d5000

                They should be. What caps do you have in stock?
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • Fritz23
                  Member
                  • Feb 2015
                  • 45
                  • Germany

                  #28
                  Re: No Stdby Light Samsung Ue46d5000

                  Capacities >470uF but none is capable of 50V+

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                  • Moreno83
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 2008
                    • The Netherlands

                    #29
                    Re: No Stdby Light Samsung Ue46d5000

                    My 40D5000 also had a bouncing voltage going to the mainboard. Just powersupply connected to the mains turned the backlight on. You probably already tried that right?

                    Reecey is right , the mainboard cpu gets really hot and the heatsink is to small.
                    I only repair Panasonic plasma tv's! Currently owning a TX-P55VT50 and still searching for a ZT60!

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                    • Fritz23
                      Member
                      • Feb 2015
                      • 45
                      • Germany

                      #30
                      Re: No Stdby Light Samsung Ue46d5000

                      Yes it turns the backlight on, but it turns of instantly again in an endless loop.

                      Is there any way to check the mainboard? Could it be really shorted or just a bad solder joint on the cpu? How many pins are under the cpu? Did anyone try to reball it?

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                      • Fritz23
                        Member
                        • Feb 2015
                        • 45
                        • Germany

                        #31
                        Re: No Stdby Light Samsung Ue46d5000

                        Originally posted by budm
                        Do you have some caps in stock?
                        I would like you to replace cap CM812 (10uf 50V), CS805 (47uF 50V) to see if the A5V will become steady.
                        Hi again

                        I replaced both of them. A5V not stable.

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                        • Fritz23
                          Member
                          • Feb 2015
                          • 45
                          • Germany

                          #32
                          Re: No Stdby Light Samsung Ue46d5000

                          *push*

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                          • Fritz23
                            Member
                            • Feb 2015
                            • 45
                            • Germany

                            #33
                            Re: No Stdby Light Samsung Ue46d5000

                            Does nobody else have an idea?

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #34
                              Re: No Stdby Light Samsung Ue46d5000

                              Sorry, I ran out of ideas, I still think something is loading the down the VCC line produced by the AUX winding of the standby transformer that supplies the switched VCC to the LED driver circuit.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                              Comment

                              • dick_barton
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Aug 2015
                                • 6643
                                • Wales

                                #35
                                Re: No Stdby Light Samsung Ue46d5000

                                I tried to jumper the PSU (PS_On and A5V, which seemed to be 5V_SB), but this killed a small Transistor. The PSU still works.
                                What did you replace this transistor this with?

                                I found a damaged double Z-Diode (for the CI) on the mainboard and soldered it out.
                                Again what did you replace this with?
                                Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                                • Fritz23
                                  Member
                                  • Feb 2015
                                  • 45
                                  • Germany

                                  #36
                                  Re: No Stdby Light Samsung Ue46d5000

                                  Originally posted by budm
                                  Sorry, I ran out of ideas, I still think something is loading the down the VCC line produced by the AUX winding of the standby transformer that supplies the switched VCC to the LED driver circuit.
                                  Okay, thank you for your time. I'll try some things.

                                  Originally posted by dick_barton
                                  What did you replace this transistor this with?



                                  Again what did you replace this with?
                                  I did replace both boards with new, used ones.

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                                  • Fritz23
                                    Member
                                    • Feb 2015
                                    • 45
                                    • Germany

                                    #37
                                    Re: No Stdby Light Samsung Ue46d5000

                                    Okay, I surrender.

                                    I couldn't find the fault the last time and i couldn't find it this time even with your help.

                                    Now by accidentally shorting Lvcc and Hvcc of ICM801 I probably killed it and some other stuff around it too.

                                    At least A5V is now dead stable at 5.2V

                                    Fucking Trash

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                                    • Moreno83
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Jun 2014
                                      • 2008
                                      • The Netherlands

                                      #38
                                      Re: No Stdby Light Samsung Ue46d5000

                                      The tv provides a good image when it works but the cpu gets really really hot. I had to reflow it 2 times to get it to work , still working at the moment.

                                      You going to buy a new psu?
                                      I only repair Panasonic plasma tv's! Currently owning a TX-P55VT50 and still searching for a ZT60!

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                                      • Fritz23
                                        Member
                                        • Feb 2015
                                        • 45
                                        • Germany

                                        #39
                                        Re: No Stdby Light Samsung Ue46d5000

                                        Hey guys,

                                        I've got a small update for you:
                                        I just bought a new PSU (BN44-00473B instead of "A"). The PSU appears to be working fine but the TV is still completely dead.
                                        I checked all voltages while everything was connected and they seem to be okay.

                                        The two voltage regulators (IC206_T5V: 178M09 and IC706_T5V: LD1117AG) get pretty hot but there is absolutely no sign of life. Even the PSU doesn't switch off.

                                        Any ideas on this?

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