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    #21
    Re: bn44-00338b

    You're right, I didn't notice that.

    How is this circuit supposed to work? Obviously 23mv won't turn on the MOSFET but what happens when the MOSFET turns on? Looks like it will force positive voltage onto the ground? You can see I don't understand how an SMPS works.

    So you still think the IC is the problem? I ordered some but likely won't see them for a week or so, coming from Hong Kong.

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      #22
      Re: bn44-00338b

      Here is the application notes for the FAN7530, the example circuit is about the same as used in the board.
      Attached Files
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        #23
        Re: bn44-00338b

        Hi Bud,

        I hope you are still monitoring this thread. My replacement IC finally arrived so I installed it. That wasn't the problem. I still have exactly the same voltages I show in post #17. For some reason the IC is not turning on. I have read through the docs for the IC and though I understand it a little better, I'm not sure what to look for as to why it is not turning on. Any other things you can suggest to look for?

        Thanks, Terry

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          #24
          Re: bn44-00338b

          OK, so what DC Voltage do you get compared to the one in post 17?
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            #25
            Re: bn44-00338b

            Exactly the same, everywhere. I bought more than one IC so I even swapped in a second one. No change. The docs say the IC compares the inverted and the non-inverted inputs. I'll assume the inverted in the INV pin but I don't know which pin is the non-inverted. Something is not sending the correct voltage or current to make the IC happy. Have you had the chance to mark down the correct voltages for each pin on the IC? That would be very helpful.

            Blessings, Terry

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              #26
              Re: bn44-00338b

              I'm attaching another partial of the schematic with the voltages to hopefully give a better picture of what's going on.

              Thanks, Terry
              Attached Files
              Last edited by still4given; 10-03-2014, 08:50 PM.

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                #27
                Re: bn44-00338b

                Can I see the bottom side of the board around the MOSFET and the IC you replaced?
                DP803 Diode (Gate discharge diode) is connected in parallel with low Ohms resistor so it will show conduction on both directions.
                Something is locking out the IC from generating the output signal to drive the MOSFET.
                Last edited by budm; 10-03-2014, 09:02 PM.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  #28
                  Re: bn44-00338b

                  Here you go.

                  Edit; adding a shot of the bottom where I replaced the FSR
                  Attached Files
                  Last edited by still4given; 10-03-2014, 09:30 PM.

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                    #29
                    Re: bn44-00338b

                    Hi Bud,

                    I'm still hoping to fix this with some help. I hope you can find the time to take a look at my findings and make some more suggestions. I could just buy a replacement but then I won't learn anything.

                    Blessings, Terry

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                      #30
                      Re: bn44-00338b

                      I have to do more thinking on this one.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        #31
                        Re: bn44-00338b

                        I appreciate that. Standing by.

                        Thanks

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                          #32
                          Re: bn44-00338b

                          Hi Bud,

                          Any more suggestions as to what I might check to help get to the bottom of this issue?

                          Thanks, Terry

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                            #33
                            Re: bn44-00338b

                            Tried a new MOSFET...?
                            TELEFIX

                            How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
                            http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
                            PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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                              #34
                              Re: bn44-00338b

                              Hola, el problema que tienes esta en la linea que sale desde el diodo DP802, atraviesa BP803 y BP804 y continua por RP813, RP814,RP815,RP816, RP817,RP818 y RP819.
                              Mide estas resistencias, lo mas probable es que una de ellas esta abierta.
                              Cualquier variación fuerte de voltaje en la linea de entrada ( 120vca) provocara en daño del circuito o el daño de estos componentes.
                              Apagada la fuente o en standby , debes tener 180vcd aproximadamente 180VCD en BP803, con la fuente trabajando al 100% debes tener 380 - 400vcd

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                                #35
                                Re: bn44-00338b

                                See notes en datasheet in page 3:
                                The OVP comparator shuts
                                down the output drive block when the voltage of the INV pin
                                is higher than 2.675V and there is 0.175V hysteresis. The
                                disable comparator disables the operation of the FAN7530
                                when the voltage of the inverting input is lower than 0.45V
                                and there is 100mV hysteresis

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                                  #36
                                  Re: bn44-00338b

                                  Originally posted by Alastair E View Post
                                  Tried a new MOSFET...?
                                  No, I have not tried that. Do the voltages indicate it is faulty?

                                  See notes en datasheet in page 3:
                                  The OVP comparator shuts
                                  down the output drive block when the voltage of the INV pin
                                  is higher than 2.675V and there is 0.175V hysteresis. The
                                  disable comparator disables the operation of the FAN7530
                                  when the voltage of the inverting input is lower than 0.45V
                                  and there is 100mV hysteresis
                                  I don't quite follow you. INV pin is 1.1V which is higher than 0.45V and lower than 2.675V. I don't understand the term hysteresis nor how to check for that.

                                  Thanks, Terry

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                                    #37
                                    Re: bn44-00338b

                                    I ordered a new mosfet. I get back to you once I've replaced it.

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                                      #38
                                      Re: bn44-00338b

                                      Hi Guys,

                                      I installed a new MOSFET and have no change. Do any of you have a suggestion for where to look next?

                                      Thanks, Terry

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                                        #39
                                        Re: bn44-00338b

                                        Nothing from me at this point yet.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                          #40
                                          Re: bn44-00338b

                                          I'd love to see a schematic with some voltage readings of other pertinent areas. If someone has one of these that they could take some readings one it would be most helpful.

                                          Thanks, Terry

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