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  • thatkid8520
    Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 13
    • United States of America

    #1

    sylvania lc40ss8 won't power on

    I have a 42 in. sylvania lc40ss8 that was recently given to me that won't power on.

    When plugged in it emits a high pitched whine from what appears to be a transformer marked T600 which changes when the power switch is pressed.

    I see no evidence of a blown component

    Here's a link to the service manual
  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 31010
    • Albion

    #2
    Re: sylvania lc40ss8 won't power on

    sounds like something shorted - maybe a diode.

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    • thatkid8520
      Member
      • Jul 2014
      • 13
      • United States of America

      #3
      Re: sylvania lc40ss8 won't power on

      Originally posted by stj
      sounds like something shorted - maybe a diode.
      How would I go about checking that?

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      • martino
        Not so "senior"
        • Aug 2013
        • 997
        • canada

        #4
        Re: sylvania lc40ss8 won't power on

        Do you have a digital multimeter?
        Proud owner of dozens of broken TV's and many,many,many boards.


        Our website and passion:http://hollenhundshepherds.com/

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        • thatkid8520
          Member
          • Jul 2014
          • 13
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          #5
          Re: sylvania lc40ss8 won't power on

          Originally posted by martino
          Do you have a digital multimeter?
          No, I have the world's cheapest analog multimeter though. Will that do?

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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
            • 32560
            • UK

            #6
            Re: sylvania lc40ss8 won't power on

            It is difficult to repair modern electronics with only an analog multimeter, they usually do not have the resolution necessary to pick up small changes in voltages which can be critical to operation of a TV.
            Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
            For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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            • thatkid8520
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              • Jul 2014
              • 13
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              #7
              Re: sylvania lc40ss8 won't power on

              Originally posted by tom66
              It is difficult to repair modern electronics with only an analog multimeter, they usually do not have the resolution necessary to pick up small changes in voltages which can be critical to operation of a TV.
              Is there a way to at least check a few diodes with an analog meter?

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              • johnboy1313
                Badcaps Legend
                • Nov 2012
                • 1959
                • USA

                #8
                Re: sylvania lc40ss8 won't power on

                You can get a capable digital meter from Harbor Freight for $5.

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                • thatkid8520
                  Member
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 13
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                  #9
                  Re: sylvania lc40ss8 won't power on

                  I tried testing the diodes by putting my multimeter in the resistance setting and checking the diodes in each polarity.

                  All of the large diodes surrounding the transformer are showing a short in each polarity, could that mean the transformer itself is busted?

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                  • martino
                    Not so "senior"
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 997
                    • canada

                    #10
                    Re: sylvania lc40ss8 won't power on

                    Transformers barely ever die...
                    It is most likely your anolog meter,you really can't use it for tv repair...
                    Do yourself a favor and get a cheap digital multimeter,you can get them for a couple of bucks,small investment but well worth it once your tv works again
                    In general you can test diodes on the board,sometimes you need to desolder one leg,to read it out of circuit...
                    Proud owner of dozens of broken TV's and many,many,many boards.


                    Our website and passion:http://hollenhundshepherds.com/

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                    • thatkid8520
                      Member
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 13
                      • United States of America

                      #11
                      Re: sylvania lc40ss8 won't power on

                      Originally posted by martino
                      Transformers barely ever die...
                      It is most likely your anolog meter,you really can't use it for tv repair...
                      Do yourself a favor and get a cheap digital multimeter,you can get them for a couple of bucks,small investment but well worth it once your tv works again
                      In general you can test diodes on the board,sometimes you need to desolder one leg,to read it out of circuit...
                      That leads to another problem, it's a leadfree board. I need to keep soldering to an absolute minimum

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                      • martino
                        Not so "senior"
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 997
                        • canada

                        #12
                        Re: sylvania lc40ss8 won't power on

                        Originally posted by thatkid8520
                        That leads to another problem, it's a leadfree board. I need to keep soldering to an absolute minimum
                        Why?
                        Proud owner of dozens of broken TV's and many,many,many boards.


                        Our website and passion:http://hollenhundshepherds.com/

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                        • thatkid8520
                          Member
                          • Jul 2014
                          • 13
                          • United States of America

                          #13
                          Re: sylvania lc40ss8 won't power on

                          Originally posted by martino
                          Why?
                          I've never soldered with leadfree and I'm not sure if my iron will even work with it.

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: sylvania lc40ss8 won't power on

                            No need to use leadfree, you just add regular solder to the joints.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • thatkid8520
                              Member
                              • Jul 2014
                              • 13
                              • United States of America

                              #15
                              Re: sylvania lc40ss8 won't power on

                              Originally posted by budm
                              No need to use leadfree, you just add regular solder to the joints.
                              Is there a trick to getting the original components off? Sorry if I'm asking stupid questions I'm really new to this.

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                              • martino
                                Not so "senior"
                                • Aug 2013
                                • 997
                                • canada

                                #16
                                Re: sylvania lc40ss8 won't power on

                                You might find sometimes that leadfree solder is hard to "melt",simply ad a bit of normal solder to it as you heat the pad,it will mix and you will find it melts easier that way...
                                Proud owner of dozens of broken TV's and many,many,many boards.


                                Our website and passion:http://hollenhundshepherds.com/

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: sylvania lc40ss8 won't power on

                                  What tools do you have for removing solder off the board?
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • thatkid8520
                                    Member
                                    • Jul 2014
                                    • 13
                                    • United States of America

                                    #18
                                    Re: sylvania lc40ss8 won't power on

                                    Originally posted by budm
                                    What tools do you have for removing solder off the board?
                                    A weller 8200 soldering gun and some soldering braid.

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: sylvania lc40ss8 won't power on

                                      Soldering braid and solder flux are good to use together for removing the old solder. Flux is good to have when you do soldering works. The 8200 is not practical for PCB works you are more likely ending up damaging the the solder pads and traces.
                                      Last edited by budm; 07-25-2014, 11:52 AM.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • thatkid8520
                                        Member
                                        • Jul 2014
                                        • 13
                                        • United States of America

                                        #20
                                        Re: sylvania lc40ss8 won't power on

                                        Originally posted by budm
                                        Soldering braid and solder flux are good to use together for removing the old solder. Flux is good to have when you do soldering works. The 8200 is not practical for PCB works you are more likely ending up damaging the the solder pads and traces.
                                        Will it at least be possible if I move quick enough? I don't have enough money to buy a new iron.

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