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  • ned1
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    • Feb 2014
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    #21
    Re: Samsung PN50B430P2DXZA

    Y-main scope reading
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    • ned1
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      #22
      Re: Samsung PN50B430P2DXZA

      Where do I connect scope probe on X-main
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      • ned1
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        #23
        Re: Samsung PN50B430P2DXZA

        Also is 5V standby power supposed to be there with tv on and tv in standby mode.

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
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          #24
          Re: Samsung PN50B430P2DXZA

          Nice scope! Y'know, it has a USB port, for exporting an image, it's a lot easier.
          Y-main looks OK.
          X-main waveform, see picture.

          Yes, 5V standby should always be present.
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          • ned1
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            • Feb 2014
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            #25
            Re: Samsung PN50B430P2DXZA

            Nice scope, operator sucks.
            See the X-main scope picture.
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            • ned1
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              #26
              Re: Samsung PN50B430P2DXZA

              Here is the one that matters fromX-main
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              • tom66
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                #27
                Re: Samsung PN50B430P2DXZA

                That's more or less correct for X-main waveform. Can you try turning off the dual-timebase zoom (zoom factor should be off) and use a timebase of 10us/div?
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                • ned1
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                  #28
                  Re: Samsung PN50B430P2DXZA

                  Here you go X-main
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                  • ned1
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                    #29
                    Re: Samsung PN50B430P2DXZA

                    Y-main with new settings looks suspicious
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                    • tom66
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                      #30
                      Re: Samsung PN50B430P2DXZA

                      I can't find fault with either of those waveforms.
                      Does Ve of 88V match the rating printed on the panel? What happens when you increase it? I have to say, 88V is quite low, a modern panel is closer to 130~150V, though it is one of the most variable voltages for a plasma.
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                      • ned1
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                        #31
                        Re: Samsung PN50B430P2DXZA

                        Did you see the picture of new Y-main waferorm I send. 88V matches panel sticker, maximum increase is close to 120V no difference in picture quality

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                        • Glitcher
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                          • Mar 2013
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                          #32
                          Re: Samsung PN50B430P2DXZA

                          88V is the correct spec for this panel, its also the same spec for the PN50B450 model I worked on.
                          This is starting to look like the same problem I was going through, all the voltages are on the correct spec too.
                          Last edited by Glitcher; 05-02-2014, 04:38 PM.

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                          • tom66
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                            #33
                            Re: Samsung PN50B430P2DXZA

                            The Y-main reading looks OK. I'm at a loss to explain the poor image - everything is working right. Any change in image noticed when you adjust the Yrr or Yfr on the Y-main? You should also see a change in the Y-main waveform.
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                            • ned1
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                              #34
                              Re: Samsung PN50B430P2DXZA

                              No change

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                              • tom66
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                                #35
                                Re: Samsung PN50B430P2DXZA

                                Only suggestion I've got left is a bad control board.
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                                • ned1
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                                  #36
                                  Re: Samsung PN50B430P2DXZA

                                  I thought same but the replacement I got have same problem. It still can be bad replacement from eBay

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                                  • tom66
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                                    #37
                                    Re: Samsung PN50B430P2DXZA

                                    I never thought of it before, but how sure are you the X-main is connected properly to the panel? Are all ribbons installed? Is the connector well seated, no cracked solder joints etc,?
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                                    • ned1
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                                      #38
                                      Re: Samsung PN50B430P2DXZA

                                      I will compare x- main I ordered and the replacement. Maybe the one I repaired damaged control board I ordered as replacement. What bugs me is there are 4 RJH3044 gets and 2 Fairchild fets and Fairchild fets are supposed to be replacement for RJH3044. I installed Fairchild so ended up with 6 same Fairchild parts. If they are replacement why would every x and y main had both of them? I guess something is different.

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                                      • ned1
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                                        #39
                                        Re: Samsung PN50B430P2DXZA

                                        X main is connected properly. I removed few times and reconnected. I don't see nothing wrong with cable or connection. There is a way to check main and logic board pattern in service mode also. I just need to get remote for Samsung

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                                        • ned1
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                                          #40
                                          Re: Samsung PN50B430P2DXZA

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                                          Last edited by ned1; 05-02-2014, 07:11 PM.

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