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  • landyboy
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    • Apr 2013
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    #1

    Phillips 42PFL3704D/F7 Dead

    Phillips 42PFL3704D/F7 Totally dead. Check main fuse its good. I have 90vac at the fuse. No DC voltage present. With set on there is 30vac at all 4 pins of the bridge rectifier. It seems everything I test on the hot side has 30vac. Not sure where to start on this one.
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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
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    #2
    Re: Phillips 42PFL3704D/F7 Dead

    2nd pic
    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...4&d=1376511088

    Big orange cap near bridge rectifer, on volt DC range, what do you see?
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    • budm
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      • Feb 2010
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      #3
      Re: Phillips 42PFL3704D/F7 Dead

      Make sure to use the negative leg of that large black filter cap as the Ground ref for the voltage measurement in the primary section, not the chassis. To measure the incoming AC you will use AC meter on the White Neutral wire where the AC power cord is and the Main AC fuse. You are reading 90VAC because you are using the chassis as the ref point.
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      • landyboy
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        • Apr 2013
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        #4
        Re: Phillips 42PFL3704D/F7 Dead

        2.7VDC across large orange Cap

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
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          #5
          Re: Phillips 42PFL3704D/F7 Dead

          Is input fuse good?
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          • landyboy
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            #6
            Re: Phillips 42PFL3704D/F7 Dead

            Yes 0.2 ohms

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            • tom66
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              #7
              Re: Phillips 42PFL3704D/F7 Dead

              Hmm, OK. I'd suggest you remove the bridge rectifier from the circuit and test it out of circuit.
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              • landyboy
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                • Apr 2013
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                #8
                Re: Phillips 42PFL3704D/F7 Dead

                Fh1602 tests 480k ohms is that correct?

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                • landyboy
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                  • Apr 2013
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                  #9
                  Re: Phillips 42PFL3704D/F7 Dead

                  FH1602 is a large plastic fuse? in the main area. Should the be 0 ohms as any other fuse?

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                  • tom66
                    EVs Rule
                    • Apr 2011
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                    #10
                    Re: Phillips 42PFL3704D/F7 Dead

                    Where is that device?
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                    • landyboy
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                      #11
                      Re: Phillips 42PFL3704D/F7 Dead

                      it does exist, there was a designation on the underside of the board of FH1602 so I thought there was another fuse but it is actually the noise suppression cap. I guess my next move is to desolder bridge rect and test.

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                      • landyboy
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                        #12
                        Re: Phillips 42PFL3704D/F7 Dead

                        doesn't exist sorry

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                        • landyboy
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                          #13
                          Re: Phillips 42PFL3704D/F7 Dead

                          Bridge Rectifier test ok

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                          • landyboy
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                            #14
                            Re: Phillips 42PFL3704D/F7 Dead

                            Underside Pic
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                            • tom66
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                              #15
                              Re: Phillips 42PFL3704D/F7 Dead

                              OK, in the holes of where the bridge rectifier was test voltage between the two middle pins, volts AC.
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                              • landyboy
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                                #16
                                Re: Phillips 42PFL3704D/F7 Dead

                                Across the two middle pins set to VAC 0volts

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                                • budm
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                                  • Feb 2010
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Phillips 42PFL3704D/F7 Dead

                                  You are not going to get any AC on the two pins of the bridge until the main board sends the signal to turn on the BLUE power relay. Need to check the STBY power supply section first.
                                  What is the chassis number?
                                  Last edited by budm; 08-14-2013, 04:05 PM.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • landyboy
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Phillips 42PFL3704D/F7 Dead

                                    I did that test with the PSU isolated

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                                    • tom66
                                      EVs Rule
                                      • Apr 2011
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Phillips 42PFL3704D/F7 Dead

                                      AH! I did not notice the relay. It looked like an X-cap. But I did not know why there was an X-cap to ground...
                                      Good catch Bud.
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                                      • landyboy
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Phillips 42PFL3704D/F7 Dead

                                        Q1601 1.55m 3.1k 1.82m
                                        Q1602 1.56m 32.1ohms 1.82m

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