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  • johnboy1313
    Badcaps Legend
    • Nov 2012
    • 1959
    • USA

    #1

    LG 42PJ350-UB Sound, No Pic

    Red LED on at standby, off when powered up.

    Vs = 205V
    Va = 65
    Vsc = 145V
    Vzb = 110

    I haven't found where to test -195V. Good fuse on Y-Sus. Good voltages at Z-Sus. Power comes on and off with power button. Panel does not appear to prime. No buzz, no obvious cracks in panel.

    I disconnected the LVDS cable and used a 219ohm resistor to short EXT and AUTO GEN on the control board. Still no picture.

    I'm thinking Y-Sus. Have any of you had any luck fixing the Y-sus on these?
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  • capkid
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    • Oct 2010
    • 1339
    • United States

    #2
    Re: LG 42PJ350-UB Sound, No Pic

    The -Vy (-195V) test point appears to be located below the row of large caps on the Y-Sus. The "-Vy" label might be covered in silicone.
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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #3
      Re: LG 42PJ350-UB Sound, No Pic

      For EXT AUTO GEN, a wire jumper works best.
      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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      • johnboy1313
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        • Nov 2012
        • 1959
        • USA

        #4
        Re: LG 42PJ350-UB Sound, No Pic

        Bad control board.
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        • capkid
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          • Oct 2010
          • 1339
          • United States

          #5
          Re: LG 42PJ350-UB Sound, No Pic

          Another one saved - nice!
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          • nick1969
            Member
            • Jun 2012
            • 30
            • Australia

            #6
            Re: LG 42PJ350-UB Sound, No Pic

            Hi
            I have the same model TV with sound only no picture, can you help determine if its the control board or Y SUS board please
            Thanks

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            • capkid
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              • Oct 2010
              • 1339
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              #7
              Re: LG 42PJ350-UB Sound, No Pic

              Originally posted by nick1969
              Hi
              I have the same model TV with sound only no picture, can you help determine if its the control board or Y SUS board please
              Thanks
              So, you can just repeat the tests performed earlier:

              (1) Check the VS and VA voltages leaving the power supply.
              (2) Check VSC and -Vy voltages on the Y-Sus then check Vzb on the Z-Sustain.
              (3) If voltages are normal, place a jumper on the EXT_AUTO_GEN points on the logic board to see if test patterns show onscreen.

              Edit: Let us know if you need more "how to" info.
              Last edited by capkid; 08-25-2013, 01:03 AM.
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              • nick1969
                Member
                • Jun 2012
                • 30
                • Australia

                #8
                Re: LG 42PJ350-UB Sound, No Pic

                Thanks, i will open it up soon and check those voltages first, can you mark on the control board what 2 i need to jump please
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                • tom66
                  EVs Rule
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 32560
                  • UK

                  #9
                  Re: LG 42PJ350-UB Sound, No Pic

                  Two holes adjacent of the "XD" LG chip: marked EXT AUTO GEN. Just put a wire between them, and disconnect the silver-and-black connector at the top of the board.
                  Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
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                  • nick1969
                    Member
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 30
                    • Australia

                    #10
                    Re: LG 42PJ350-UB Sound, No Pic

                    Vs = 204.6V
                    Va = 60.6V
                    Vsc = 23.5V
                    Vy = 22.9V

                    im guessing its Y sus board since VSC and Vy voltages are too low

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #11
                      Re: LG 42PJ350-UB Sound, No Pic

                      Try with the buffer boards disconnected; the buffer boards connect to the Y-sus.
                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
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                      • nick1969
                        Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 30
                        • Australia

                        #12
                        Re: LG 42PJ350-UB Sound, No Pic

                        Hi
                        with the buffer ribbon cable unplugged VSC is 2.5v and Vy 1.9v

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                        • tom66
                          EVs Rule
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #13
                          Re: LG 42PJ350-UB Sound, No Pic

                          You need to unscrew the buffer boards completely, just have them connected to the orange ribbons and nothing else.
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                          • Kcristiano
                            New Member
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 3
                            • Portugal

                            #14
                            Re: LG 42PJ350-UB Sound, No Pic

                            Hi,

                            I have the same problem on my lg, i check the voltages and i have this:

                            vs - 213v
                            va - 63v
                            vsc - 150v
                            vzb - 120v

                            now, i put a wire on EXT AUTO GEN and 3 images appears but just for 1 seconds

                            1 - http://imageshack.com/a/img838/6903/f319.jpg
                            2 - http://imageshack.com/a/img839/7836/b6dc.jpg
                            3 - http://imageshack.com/a/img854/7278/g7kw.jpg

                            someone knows how fix it?? thanks..

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                            • tom66
                              EVs Rule
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 32560
                              • UK

                              #15
                              Re: LG 42PJ350-UB Sound, No Pic

                              Do -Vy and Vsc disappear when that image goes away? What about Vs and Va?
                              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                              • Kcristiano
                                New Member
                                • Feb 2014
                                • 3
                                • Portugal

                                #16
                                Re: LG 42PJ350-UB Sound, No Pic

                                hi,
                                thanks to wast your time with me...

                                i think vsc dissapear when image goes way..my mulltimeter just go to 500v..so when image goes away give me 1 on multimeter, when image comes, multimeter give me +-200v depends the image...

                                vs and va no change...

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                                • Kcristiano
                                  New Member
                                  • Feb 2014
                                  • 3
                                  • Portugal

                                  #17
                                  Re: LG 42PJ350-UB Sound, No Pic

                                  so Tom66, you don t know what it is???

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                                  • paulnetv
                                    Member
                                    • Mar 2014
                                    • 22
                                    • United Kingdom

                                    #18
                                    Re: LG 42PJ350-UB Sound, No Pic

                                    Hi guys, I too have a problem with this 42PJ350 set.

                                    Much as above.
                                    Va = 60.4
                                    Vs = 204.4
                                    Vsc = 146.1
                                    -Vy = -196.2
                                    Vzb = 110 however after a few seconds this begins to drop, if checked after 5 minutes, this has all but disappeared.

                                    I have no buzz from YSUS and no glow on the screen in dark room.

                                    I have no flashes at all on the CTRL board although the voltages to it appear to be fine also the onboard regulators are working and giving out 3.3v & 1.2v as would be expected.

                                    I have linked Stby with RL_ON and M_ON at the mainboard with 220R resistors in order to make the screen glow but to no avail. I still get no buzz or glow.

                                    I scoped J43 on the ZSUS board labelled "ZSUS_Waveform" for all I don't know what to expect here I get a pretty constant 17.75volts and no waveform.

                                    From the above, I am almost sure PSU, Mainboard (Computer) and YSUS/buffers are all ok.

                                    Can anybody add anything I can test here to confirm my suspicions of CTRL board faulty or ZSUS board. I can't be sure which it is.

                                    Thanks in advance for any replies.

                                    P.S. It is getting on here in the UK so I may not reply for a few hours.

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                                    • paulnetv
                                      Member
                                      • Mar 2014
                                      • 22
                                      • United Kingdom

                                      #19
                                      Re: LG 42PJ350-UB Sound, No Pic

                                      Bump...

                                      Can anyone think of where to go next with the problem on this set?

                                      I'm scratching my head now.

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                                      • paulnetv
                                        Member
                                        • Mar 2014
                                        • 22
                                        • United Kingdom

                                        #20
                                        Re: LG 42PJ350-UB Sound, No Pic

                                        Would it help if I say please

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