Zenith Plasma Z42PJ240 sound but no picture

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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #21
    Re: Zenith Plasma Z42PJ240 sound but no picture

    Do you still have the dark room glow of the panel?
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    • Bamakc
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      • May 2013
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      • USA

      #22
      Re: Zenith Plasma Z42PJ240 sound but no picture

      Now checking my y-sus I have no Vsc or by voltage

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      • Bamakc
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        • May 2013
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        • USA

        #23
        Re: Zenith Plasma Z42PJ240 sound but no picture

        Correction I don't have either Vsc or Vy on the y-sus

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        • Bamakc
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          • May 2013
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          #24
          Re: Zenith Plasma Z42PJ240 sound but no picture

          I don't have a glow either

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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
            • 32560
            • UK

            #25
            Re: Zenith Plasma Z42PJ240 sound but no picture

            I'm guessing that the Z-sustain has killed your Y-sustain, check your Y-sustain for shorted FETs.
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            • Bamakc
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              • May 2013
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              #26
              Re: Zenith Plasma Z42PJ240 sound but no picture

              Is the Y-sus an easy fix or do i need to start looking for a replacement? Also where can i get a schematic for the X and Y sustain boards?

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              • tom66
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                • Apr 2011
                • 32560
                • UK

                #27
                Re: Zenith Plasma Z42PJ240 sound but no picture

                What is the EBR or EAX number on your sustain boards?
                Most LGs do not have schematics except for some of the main board.
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                • Bamakc
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                  • May 2013
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                  #28
                  Re: Zenith Plasma Z42PJ240 sound but no picture

                  Zenith Plasma Z42Pj240

                  Z Sustain Board
                  PN : EAX61420601
                  ERB66607601

                  Y Sustain Board
                  PN: EAX61332701

                  Power Supply Board
                  PN: EAY60912401

                  Logic Board
                  PN: ERB63632301

                  Main Board
                  PN: EAX61358603(1)
                  ERB61358603(1)

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                  • hienton2
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 183

                    #29
                    Re: Zenith Plasma Z42PJ240 sound but no picture

                    Sorry Bamakc. I have a short question here for Tom66.
                    How can Z sus kills Ysus board as you said on #25 post.
                    Thanks
                    Last edited by hienton2; 05-14-2013, 09:06 AM.

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #30
                      Re: Zenith Plasma Z42PJ240 sound but no picture

                      With the new combined energy recovery system on these newer plasmas it can. A short on the Z-sus can damage the Y-sus.
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                      • hienton2
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 183

                        #31
                        Re: Zenith Plasma Z42PJ240 sound but no picture

                        Originally posted by tom66
                        With the new combined energy recovery system on these newer plasmas it can. A short on the Z-sus can damage the Y-sus.
                        Thanks Tom

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                        • tom66
                          EVs Rule
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #32
                          Re: Zenith Plasma Z42PJ240 sound but no picture

                          No schematics available for those, sorry.
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                          • Bamakc
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                            • May 2013
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                            • USA

                            #33
                            Re: Zenith Plasma Z42PJ240 sound but no picture

                            I don't know what happened last night but this afternoon i removed the Y-sus board and checked for shorts but found none. i then removed the buffer board and didn't really know how to check it but i didn't find any shorts on it either. I re-assembled the boards and then I put the 160 ohm resistor back on the control board then plugged the power cord back in and the picture came on all white for about 3 to 5 secs then the test pattern started. After a few more seconds a large area in the middle of the picture went black but the outer areas continued to run the pattern. the black was like a smear and not really a definite shape. I left it on for at least 10 mins and it stayed on but the picture never improved. The heat sinks were hot on the Y-sus and the silver colored one the Z-sus was hot. All on the power supply were cool. Any ideas?

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                            • Bamakc
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                              • May 2013
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                              #34
                              Re: Zenith Plasma Z42PJ240 sound but no picture

                              The test pattern also shows color also. I think that i read in an earlier post that if the heat sinks were hot on the Y or Z sustain boards that they should be repaired or replaced. I am comfortable with repairing them but i didn't find anything shorted. Would it be better to replace both sus boards? Could it be the buffer board?

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                              • tom66
                                EVs Rule
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 32560
                                • UK

                                #35
                                Re: Zenith Plasma Z42PJ240 sound but no picture

                                Warm heatsinks are good (means the boards are working usually), but the middle of the panel dropping out to me indicates that your Vs may not be stable, have you checked if Vs is constantly running at the rated 195V? The tolerance is +/-2V maximum.
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                                • Bamakc
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                                  • May 2013
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                                  #36
                                  Re: Zenith Plasma Z42PJ240 sound but no picture

                                  yes it is right on 195

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                                  • tom66
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                                    • Apr 2011
                                    • 32560
                                    • UK

                                    #37
                                    Re: Zenith Plasma Z42PJ240 sound but no picture

                                    OK, can you show me a picture image of the fault?
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                                    • Bamakc
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                                      #38
                                      Re: Zenith Plasma Z42PJ240 sound but no picture

                                      Thanks for you Help Tom66. Here are some pics. After i took the pics I removed power and disconnected the cable going to the Z-sus then re-applied the power and i heard a faint snap and the picture would not come on but still had audio. I checked the Y-sus board and found Q22and Q23 (SUS_DN) shorted. Also Q21 (SUS_DN) open. Q12 (SUS_UP) open , Q13 (SUS_UP) shorted, Q15 (Blocking) open. After looking at the pictures, do you think this is beyond repair?
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                                      • tom66
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                                        • Apr 2011
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                                        • UK

                                        #39
                                        Re: Zenith Plasma Z42PJ240 sound but no picture

                                        I think you've just got to replace -everything- shorted to get the image right.
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                                        • Bamakc
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                                          • May 2013
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                                          • USA

                                          #40
                                          Re: Zenith Plasma Z42PJ240 sound but no picture

                                          Do you think if i just replace the Y-sus board it will be salvageable? or do i need to replace the Z-sus again also. The power supply still checks out ok.

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