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  • Welch
    New Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 9

    #1

    Samsung LN52A550P3F - No Backlighting

    So, I've got a friend who had this TV die on him and instead of paying to have it repaired, he bought a new TV and held onto it. Enter me... I stop by to say Hi one day and he asked if I'd like to take it and try to repair it, and that I can have it /shrug. Why the hell not, I repair computers every day.

    So the symptoms were that when he goes to turn it on, it clicks and then clicks again turning off. I instantly said "Power Supply", which he was told was an expensive fix, hence buying a new TV instead. Knowing that a PSU on these things is just a series or easy to get to flat PCB board with capacitors, I took it on.

    Last night I cracked open the back casing and got to the motherboard. Right off the bat I saw 2 blown capacitors, 1000uf/10v, some crappy brand I"ve never seen before. So I take the motherboard out, check the capactiors with a Blue ESR meter (the ones not showing signs) and all but the blown ones seem to be fine. I replace the two blown ones with Rubycon 1000uf/16v caps that I had from a previous bulk order from BC.net. Slap the entire system back together (checking that all cables are plugged back in (very easy) and I go to power it on.

    The samsung TV on chime players and I don't hear a clicking or the TV turning back off... great sign ... until I realize no video . Worried I had failed to plug something back in, I opened the case again and checked, but everything is back and snapped all the way back in.

    Being in a VERY dark room (at 3am :P) I put a bright headlamp up to the LCD and can see that there is in fact a picture being drawn, so that portion works just fine. However no back-lighting.

    I don't know enough about LCD TVs to know how to solve this problem per se. I realize it could be an inverter, but is all of the circuitry for the inverter apart of this same motherboard? The two back-light cables (white and pink) do plug in on that same board. Any good way to test for what is causing the back-lighting to not come on? I'm starting to wonder if I should order all of the caps needed to replace all of them or is there something else I'm missing. I do have a multimeter but am next to clueless on how to use it, was a Christmas gift.

    Any help would be awesome, would love to have this TV up and going before my wife has our baby so that she can watch some TV in the bedroom when she is on bed rest. Thanks guys
  • selldoor
    Slow Learner
    • Dec 2010
    • 7870

    #2
    Re: Samsung LN52A550P3F - No Backlighting

    Well you may be able to see what exactly your talking about but its a bit difficult
    when we cant. Make sure you have good battery in your meter and read this
    start at post 19 then you will have an idea what we are talking about when we get the pictures so we can point you in the right direction
    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=10419

    Please update your profile with country and mains voltage
    Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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    • Welch
      New Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 9

      #3
      Re: Samsung LN52A550P3F - No Backlighting

      I'll start with post 19. I just wanted to note that I'm not getting anything on screen for any amount of time. The back-lighting doesn't even attempt to come on at all.

      I've got a brand new (used twice, trying to figure all of its features out) Klien MM2000

      Which pictures are you wanting to see, let me know and I'll snap some shots for you. Thanks for the reply

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Samsung LN52A550P3F - No Backlighting

        Pictures of all the boards so we can see how they are connected together, then pictures of the power supply, inverter baords, main board. Good pictures of the connectors so we can read any labeling on them.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • Welch
          New Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 9

          #5
          Re: Samsung LN52A550P3F - No Backlighting

          Well... I feel stupid. I cracked back open the panel to take some pictures with my DSLR and lo and behold I noticed that I forgot to plug in the cable from the inverter to the mainboard, so it was never sending the signal to light up the backlights :P.

          So this TV fix was simply replacing 2 capacitors that were blown with new Rubycon ones, the set works flawlessly now. Didn't cost me anything since I had those capacitors laying around. Free TV for the win.

          Thanks guys, I guess I can delete the pictures of my screw up lol.

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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
            • 32560
            • UK

            #6
            Re: Samsung LN52A550P3F - No Backlighting

            LOL, nevermind! We all make mistakes. I've made a similar mistake several times before. Please upload the pictures, they may be helpful for others. Enjoy the TV.
            Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
            For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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            • eaglecaper
              Member
              • Sep 2013
              • 10
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Samsung LN52A550P3F - No Backlighting

              I have a Samsung ln52a550p3f as well and I can see the picture but I cant get the backlight on. There is an orange board that the power supply plugs into, and the backlight inverters also plug into it. Do all 4 of those have to be replaced? Or should I replace the entire board?

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              • capkid
                Badcaps Legend
                • Oct 2010
                • 1339
                • United States

                #8
                Re: Samsung LN52A550P3F - No Backlighting

                Originally posted by eaglecaper
                I have a Samsung ln52a550p3f as well and I can see the picture but I cant get the backlight on. There is an orange board that the power supply plugs into, and the backlight inverters also plug into it. Do all 4 of those have to be replaced? Or should I replace the entire board?
                Pics of the back of the TV with the cover off would be helpful for diagnosing your issue.
                LG Plasma Mal-Discharge Correction Service

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                • eaglecaper
                  Member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 10
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung LN52A550P3F - No Backlighting

                  Here are some pictures from the unit
                  Attached Files

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                  • capkid
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 1339
                    • United States

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung LN52A550P3F - No Backlighting

                    You have sound, correct? Do you have a digital multimeter? If so, please post the voltage readings for each of the pins at black connectors CN801 and CNI805 on the power supply when the TV is turned on.
                    LG Plasma Mal-Discharge Correction Service

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                    • eaglecaper
                      Member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 10
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung LN52A550P3F - No Backlighting

                      I do have sound and don't have the multimeter. I can try to find one, but is there any other way to tell?

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung LN52A550P3F - No Backlighting

                        Disconnect that grey cable between the power supply/inverter board and the main board to see if the backlights will come on, if it does, then the power supply/inverter board is OK.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • eaglecaper
                          Member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 10
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung LN52A550P3F - No Backlighting

                          I'm not really sure which grey cable that is, but I disconnected at pins 23 and 24 on the orange board that go to the green board on the right with all the lines in. When I did that the TV didnt turn on at all.
                          Last edited by eaglecaper; 09-15-2013, 09:31 AM.

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                          • capkid
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 1339
                            • United States

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung LN52A550P3F - No Backlighting

                            For reference:

                            Orange board = Power supply/inverter board. It takes the AC current coming from the wall outlet and converts it to usable DC current that powers the TV. I call it the heart of the TV.

                            Green board on right = Main board. It's more or less the brains of the TV. It sends turn on/off signals to the power supply, and it controls a lot of the audio/video circuitry.

                            A cheap multimeter would be fine.
                            Last edited by capkid; 09-15-2013, 10:00 AM.
                            LG Plasma Mal-Discharge Correction Service

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Samsung LN52A550P3F - No Backlighting

                              You can see the grey cable in your picture at close to the top right of your power supply board (yellow).
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                              Comment

                              • eaglecaper
                                Member
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 10
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Samsung LN52A550P3F - No Backlighting

                                Cool thanks for the reference point. I had no idea what those were called. I disconnected the thin light grey cable at CNI805 and the TV turned on with no backlight, and then tried it with the thick darker grey cable and it didnt turn on at all.

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung LN52A550P3F - No Backlighting

                                  OK, on the power supply/inverter board where the grey wires are connected to the connector, can you post the pictures or tell us the labeling next to that connector?
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                  Comment

                                  • eaglecaper
                                    Member
                                    • Sep 2013
                                    • 10
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung LN52A550P3F - No Backlighting

                                    Here it is.
                                    Attached Files

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung LN52A550P3F - No Backlighting

                                      OK, the piiture is so out of focus, I can read one pin as PS_ON but cannot read the others.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                      Comment

                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung LN52A550P3F - No Backlighting

                                        OK, I found my thread of the same TV I reapired.
                                        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...LN52A530P1FXZA

                                        Set the meter to DC, BLACK probe on the chassis, red probe on PS_ON, report the reading, then red probe on INVERTER/ON/OFF report the reading.
                                        B y the way, this model has problem with bad tab bonding problem, so expect that to fail.
                                        Last edited by budm; 09-15-2013, 04:15 PM.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                        Comment

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