LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #161
    Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

    Both are incorrect... It should be 5V by any means...
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    • Baileybum1234
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Sep 2012
      • 245
      • UK

      #162
      Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

      Agreed! Guess its a good start.
      Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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      • Baileybum1234
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Sep 2012
        • 245
        • UK

        #163
        Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

        Im gonne jump back to page 4 later today and do a couple of the tests I went through before.
        Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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        • Baileybum1234
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Sep 2012
          • 245
          • UK

          #164
          Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

          Ok had a little time to have a play with this again today:

          Stand by 5v board unplugged 4.43VDC

          Voltage on J22-GND = 12.8v DC

          Voltage across the 2 BIG cappasitors 400v then drops until the relays click again.

          The relays click every 10 seconds on/off.

          Looks like something is been sensed not right and not letting it power up. I think its a different problem to before.

          Standby voltage definately looks low.
          Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
            • 32560
            • UK

            #165
            Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

            Does look odd, any adjustment for it? Also, how is it with main board connected? Is there an AC-DET pin, if so, what does it measure?
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            • Baileybum1234
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              • Sep 2012
              • 245
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              #166
              Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

              ok cant see if there is a 5v adjustment anywhere just a VA and VS adjustment.

              AC detect is only a few mV with the board dissconnected but spikes as the relays click. The spike is a bit hard to measure on a DVM its so quick.

              With the board back in the TV there is no AC DET until you hit the power button the red stand by light comes on relays click and the red standby light goes off and stays off. With the TV power button pressed in the AC DET pin is 4.42VDC

              After one attempt to start the TV shuts down with no red stand by LED on at all.

              No components are getting hot that I can feel.

              Standby voltage stays at 4.31.
              Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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              • tom66
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                • Apr 2011
                • 32560
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                #167
                Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                Do you see a KA431 or KIA431 or TL431 on the board anywhere.
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                • Baileybum1234
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                  • Sep 2012
                  • 245
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                  #168
                  Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                  KIA 431A 941? I have found 4 on the power board.
                  Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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                  • tom66
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                    • Apr 2011
                    • 32560
                    • UK

                    #169
                    Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                    Yes, the nearest one to the standby section, the voltage between pin 2 and 3, it should be about 2.5V.
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                    • Baileybum1234
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                      • Sep 2012
                      • 245
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                      #170
                      Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                      In the moment the relay clicks IC102 a KIA 413A jumps upto 9v then drifts down to 0.4v.
                      Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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                      • tom66
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                        • Apr 2011
                        • 32560
                        • UK

                        #171
                        Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                        I made an error it should be between 1 and 3 I think.
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                        • Baileybum1234
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                          • Sep 2012
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                          #172
                          Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                          ok will try again. :0)
                          Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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                          • Baileybum1234
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                            • Sep 2012
                            • 245
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                            #173
                            Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                            In the moment the relay clicks PINS 1&3 IC102 a KIA 413A jumps upto 6v then drifts down to 0.6v.
                            Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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                            • tom66
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                              • Apr 2011
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                              #174
                              Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                              Final try, what does pin 1-2 measure?
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                              • Baileybum1234
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                                • Sep 2012
                                • 245
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                                #175
                                Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                                IC102 pins 1 and 2 = 1v then jumps to 2.28v momanterily on relays click.
                                Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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                                • Baileybum1234
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                                  • Sep 2012
                                  • 245
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                                  #176
                                  Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                                  There is an inductor thats making a noise L102 and when you hear the 2 relays click you can hear other parts of the TV start to fire momanterily.
                                  Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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                                  • tom66
                                    EVs Rule
                                    • Apr 2011
                                    • 32560
                                    • UK

                                    #177
                                    Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                                    2.28V should be 2.495V, error is = 8.61%.
                                    4.43V should be 5V, error is = 11.4%

                                    It's close enough to call that it could be the issue. But I'm not sure how to rule it in or out. You'd have to test it out of circuit to be certain.
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                                    • Baileybum1234
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                                      • Sep 2012
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                                      #178
                                      Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                                      ok cool I can get it out of circuit. Just how do I test it?
                                      Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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                                      • tom66
                                        EVs Rule
                                        • Apr 2011
                                        • 32560
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                                        #179
                                        Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                                        Datasheet has diagram
                                        page 20, first schematic.
                                        https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...8a1d8057ef.pdf

                                        Or just replace it, if you have an old computer psu it's bound to have one of these.
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                                        • Baileybum1234
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                                          • Sep 2012
                                          • 245
                                          • UK

                                          #180
                                          Re: LG 50PQ6000 unstable 5v standby

                                          Just looking at some utube vids. like a diode test?
                                          Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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