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  • AlbertRoss
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 181
    • United Kingdom

    #1

    Samsung-LE32B530P7W-Intermittant Back Light

    Hi All,

    Purchased this Sammy as a spares or repair. Previous owners said it would work fine for around two to three days and then the screen would go blank but sound is still there. No matter how many times it was turned on, the screen would still be blank. Leave it for a few days and it returned to normal.

    Anyway, It all came to life when I fired it up with no problems, perfect picture, sound, everything ok for a few days until now. It turns on, has sound but no back light, changes channels ok either on the set or by remote. Performed various 'wiggle' tests here and there thinking it's a loose connection or something but, no luck.

    I'm stuck now where to check next as I'm not sure what powers up the back light?
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  • randtek
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Oct 2011
    • 280
    • US

    #2
    Re: Samsung-LE32B530P7W-Intermittant Back Light

    An easy check is to unplug the TV, disconnect the cable going from the main to the power board. then plug the TV back in.; The backlights should come on and stay on with that plug disconnected. This will confirm or eliminate the main board as the source of the problem.

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    • AlbertRoss
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 181
      • United Kingdom

      #3
      Re: Samsung-LE32B530P7W-Intermittant Back Light

      Disconnected cable going from main to power board, turned TV on, backlights stayed on for approx,. 15s and then turned off. Tried it with cable connected, does same thing but now I have sound. What actually operates the backlights?

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      • selldoor
        Slow Learner
        • Dec 2010
        • 7870

        #4
        Re: Samsung-LE32B530P7W-Intermittant Back Light

        When it is on with a source and the sound is on can you see a very dark image on the panel - sometimes shining a torch onto it at various angles can help.

        Next You will have to try and get to the Tcon. The Tcon will be under that middle panel where the orangyred flat cable goes. In fact you should try and remove clean and reseat it , then try the tv again.

        Looks like the inverter transformers are on the power supply but cant see the plugs for the lights - can you take the power board off and do a picture of the underside there may even be another board under it?
        Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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        • AlbertRoss
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 181
          • United Kingdom

          #5
          Re: Samsung-LE32B530P7W-Intermittant Back Light

          I can see a very dark image moving around on the screen when using a flash light. Have removed the T-Con board, connectors look ok, although I don't have any special cleaner. Removed the PSU, no more boards underneath it.

          Re-installed components, turned on TV, back lights went off at around 60s.
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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
            • 32560
            • UK

            #6
            Re: Samsung-LE32B530P7W-Intermittant Back Light

            Closer pic of here if possible please.
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            Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
            For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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            • AlbertRoss
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 181
              • United Kingdom

              #7
              Re: Samsung-LE32B530P7W-Intermittant Back Light

              Is this o.k?
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              • tom66
                EVs Rule
                • Apr 2011
                • 32560
                • UK

                #8
                Re: Samsung-LE32B530P7W-Intermittant Back Light

                Perfect picture, I wish all pics on this forum were like that.

                OK pin 23 is your on/off pin. Can you check this with PSU installed? Is it stable or switching off when the backlight goes off?
                Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                • AlbertRoss
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 181
                  • United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung-LE32B530P7W-Intermittant Back Light

                  When back light on, pin 23 reads 2.12V stable. When back light turns off, same reading. I'm checking this with the PSU cable to main board disconnected.

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                  • selldoor
                    Slow Learner
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 7870

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung-LE32B530P7W-Intermittant Back Light

                    I am pretty sure it needs to be connected up



                    Still couldnt see the lamp connectors is it hard to get the board off that frame at the bottom.

                    Inverter transformers look a bit different to ordinary Darfons. I have marked what I think are relevant pins on attached.
                    Meter on Ohms 200 or 20 if you have it measure P1 >P2 then meter on ohms
                    2000 test S1>S2 and S3>S4. Then repeat on other transformer.
                    Post results as
                    T1
                    P1>P2 = xx ohms
                    S1>S2 = xxxx ohms and so on
                    Attached Files
                    Last edited by selldoor; 08-18-2012, 04:45 AM.
                    Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                    • AlbertRoss
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 181
                      • United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung-LE32B530P7W-Intermittant Back Light

                      Regarding your previous question, I re-connected cables and checked voltage on pin 23. This time I had 4.46V stable with backlight on or off.

                      Now I'll get back to the remaining question.

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                      • AlbertRoss
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 181
                        • United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung-LE32B530P7W-Intermittant Back Light

                        Ok,

                        T1 (T1801)
                        P1>P2 = 009.1R
                        S1>S2 = 0.833K
                        S3>S4 = 0.836K

                        T2 (T1802)
                        P1>P2 = 009.1R
                        S1>S2 = 0.836K
                        S3>S4 = 0.836K

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                        • tom66
                          EVs Rule
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung-LE32B530P7W-Intermittant Back Light

                          So main board isn't shutting backlight off. Check 13V pin on board.

                          Odd design. Looks like the big transformer on the board drives the other two transformers. Is there a part # such as BN44-xxxxxx that could be used to get schematics?
                          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                          • tom66
                            EVs Rule
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 32560
                            • UK

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung-LE32B530P7W-Intermittant Back Light

                            Never mind. 'twas staring me in the face. Schematic:
                            http://www.tgohome.com/ServiceManual...g_BN44-00261B_[SCH].pdf
                            Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                            For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                            • selldoor
                              Slow Learner
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 7870

                              #15
                              Re: Samsung-LE32B530P7W-Intermittant Back Light

                              Originally posted by AlbertRoss
                              Ok,

                              T1 (T1801)
                              P1>P2 = 009.1R
                              S1>S2 = 0.833K
                              S3>S4 = 0.836K

                              T2 (T1802)
                              P1>P2 = 009.1R
                              S1>S2 = 0.836K
                              S3>S4 = 0.836K
                              Both look good individually and relative to each other.

                              Do you have any spare ccfl bulbs old panel/laptop screen etc
                              Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                              • AlbertRoss
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 181
                                • United Kingdom

                                #16
                                Re: Samsung-LE32B530P7W-Intermittant Back Light

                                Pin 21 = 12.75V. Pin 22 is also a 13V ref, this reads 12.75V.
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                                • AlbertRoss
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Jul 2012
                                  • 181
                                  • United Kingdom

                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung-LE32B530P7W-Intermittant Back Light

                                  I don't have any spare ccfl bulbs. I do have another Sammy but can't use it for spares as I've just repaired it.

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                                  • selldoor
                                    Slow Learner
                                    • Dec 2010
                                    • 7870

                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung-LE32B530P7W-Intermittant Back Light

                                    Originally posted by AlbertRoss
                                    I don't have any spare ccfl bulbs. I do have another Sammy but can't use it for spares as I've just repaired it.
                                    If you can get to the lamp connectors you can do the one at a time flash for each bulb. Disconnect all but one and see if it flashes and try and guage if they all flash the same brightness and colour.

                                    Can you also check the fuse next to the Big Cap and the voltage across the Big cap when it is just plugged in and when you have pressed the power button

                                    High voltages for these tests when doing the lamps un plug from mains and let it stand for 5 minutes between each test. 600-800Vac

                                    Big Cap test could be 400VDC
                                    Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                    • AlbertRoss
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Jul 2012
                                      • 181
                                      • United Kingdom

                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung-LE32B530P7W-Intermittant Back Light

                                      Fuse o.k. 000.2R. Voltage across big cap when just plugged in is 326.2V. Switch on TV, voltage rises to 344.2V.

                                      I've tried lifting the long black connector that fits onto the lamps inside the panel but have a feeling they might break if I'm unable to hold them. Hope this makes sense?

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                                      • selldoor
                                        Slow Learner
                                        • Dec 2010
                                        • 7870

                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung-LE32B530P7W-Intermittant Back Light

                                        Originally posted by AlbertRoss
                                        Fuse o.k. 000.2R. Voltage across big cap when just plugged in is 326.2V. Switch on TV, voltage rises to 344.2V.

                                        I've tried lifting the long black connector that fits onto the lamps inside the panel but have a feeling they might break if I'm unable to hold them. Hope this makes sense?
                                        1 First voltage is ok - second may be a bit on the low side.

                                        2 Probably does make sense - but doesnt mean anything to me - perhaps Tom or the others have seen something similar.

                                        Not sure where to go next are there no wires between the power/inverter board and the lamps, that you can unplug?
                                        Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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