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  • jimmyking
    Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 32

    #101
    Re: A guide to fixing/troubleshooting some common plasma TV problems

    Originally posted by tom66
    Looks just like flux to me -- not a fault.

    What you need to do is find out where the fault is as it is heat related (as set warms up the fault occurs.)

    So use a hairdryer or other heat-producing device and heat up parts one by one, and see if you can make the problem occur much quicker.
    I'll do some re-soldering. I'll let you know later.

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    • jimmyking
      Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 32

      #102
      Re: A guide to fixing/troubleshooting some common plasma TV problems

      Originally posted by jimmyking
      I'll do some re-soldering. I'll let you know later.
      I re-soldering lots of (but not all of ) solder points. Still do the same.
      I found out something you guys may help me out to understand.

      Hot air works! Cold air don't. Hot air blow can make tv works more than 15 minutes. I put a small ceramic heater behind TV instead of heat gun I used. TV last more than 30 minutes before it shut off. Then I tried to push ceramic heater little closer immediately some noise sound came out of back plus some smoke. Now I think power board are toasted. Ceramic heater might have some interference with TV electronically since is not even hot yet when I pushed it closer (about 10 inch from the TV).

      Now I'd like to know where I can find another power board or someone still think it is fixable.

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #103
        Re: A guide to fixing/troubleshooting some common plasma TV problems

        Possibly it got too hot? I wouldn't use more than 50~60C.
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        • jimmyking
          Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 32

          #104
          Re: A guide to fixing/troubleshooting some common plasma TV problems

          Originally posted by tom66
          Possibly it got too hot? I wouldn't use more than 50~60C.
          Smoke did not kill the power board. This morning I put hair dryer on low heat and aimed at up right corner of the board. It has been running ever since.
          Does someone can provide the explanation or fix for this?
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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
            • 32560
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            #105
            Re: A guide to fixing/troubleshooting some common plasma TV problems

            Can you try focusing your heat on those two cyan/turquoise objects (capacitors) gunked together, near the yellow transformers?
            You have temporarily given the TV some life. Enjoy it for maybe a day. It will likely fail in short order.
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            • jimmyking
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              • Sep 2008
              • 32

              #106
              Re: A guide to fixing/troubleshooting some common plasma TV problems

              Originally posted by tom66
              Can you try focusing your heat on those two cyan/turquoise objects (capacitors) gunked together, near the yellow transformers?
              You have temporarily given the TV some life. Enjoy it for maybe a day. It will likely fail in short order.
              Warm air has to focus on up right corner (as shown in the picture). The same place that producing the smoke.
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              • tom66
                EVs Rule
                • Apr 2011
                • 32560
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                #107
                Re: A guide to fixing/troubleshooting some common plasma TV problems

                With TV off (& unplugged) shortly after running it can you feel the tops of those capacitors? Are any much warmer than others?
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                • jimmyking
                  Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 32

                  #108
                  Re: A guide to fixing/troubleshooting some common plasma TV problems

                  Originally posted by tom66
                  With TV off (& unplugged) shortly after running it can you feel the tops of those capacitors? Are any much warmer than others?
                  All three are warm (not hot) and about the same temperature.

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                  • voy2k
                    New Member
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 5
                    • USA

                    #109
                    Re: A guide to fixing/troubleshooting some common plasma TV problems

                    Hi Tom-

                    I'm afraid my bold experiment in fixing my Panasonic plasma may be over, but I want to run this by you to see if there are any other options.

                    I have a Panasonic TH50PX75U that started giving the 7 blinking lights error a few weeks ago. I did some research and was able to diagnose the problem to the upper scan board (TNPA4188). When I unplugged this board, the bottom half of the screen displayed correctly. When the board is plugged back it, it goes back to the 7 blinks error.

                    SC boards for this set seem pretty easy to find, the SU/SD boards seem pretty scarce. I was able to find a set on eBay from a guy in Canada and ordered them (sold as a pair).

                    The boards arrived yesterday and I plugged in the new upper scan board. The full display came up perfectly for about 30 seconds, then turned off and the set went back to the 7 blinks error. Pulling the upper scan board brings the set back to displaying the bottom half of the screen correctly.

                    I know it's impossible to say without more analysis, but I'd love your feedback:

                    - Did I fry the upper scan board?

                    - Although pulling the upper scan board stops the error, is it possible that the problem is the SC board?

                    Appreciate any thoughts you may have.

                    Thanks,
                    Voy

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #110
                      Re: A guide to fixing/troubleshooting some common plasma TV problems

                      Did you notice any missing lines or duplicated lines on the picture with the new upper scan installed?
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                      • voy2k
                        New Member
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 5
                        • USA

                        #111
                        Re: A guide to fixing/troubleshooting some common plasma TV problems

                        No, everything looked good for the brief time that the display came up.

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                        • voy2k
                          New Member
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 5
                          • USA

                          #112
                          Re: A guide to fixing/troubleshooting some common plasma TV problems

                          Hi Tom-

                          Any thoughts on what else to try? I'm afraid it's time to bring this set to the tech recycling drop-off, but want to check if there's any other possibilities.

                          Thanks,
                          Voy

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                          • tom66
                            EVs Rule
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 32560
                            • UK

                            #113
                            Re: A guide to fixing/troubleshooting some common plasma TV problems

                            I've got a good feeling your replacement SU was defective, if it was removed from a cracked panel TV, like most of them are. But, I can't be sure. I do think it's definitely fixable. Did you make sure all connections were securely seated, too?
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                            • voy2k
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                              • Apr 2013
                              • 5
                              • USA

                              #114
                              Re: A guide to fixing/troubleshooting some common plasma TV problems

                              I was pretty careful about seating each of the ribbons, but I certainly will double-check that. In my research, I did see that these can be a bit finicky, so that's worth another look.

                              I think you may be right about the SU board, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to find another one. I'll start looking again and see if I can locate another one.

                              Thanks much for the help,
                              Voy

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                              • tom66
                                EVs Rule
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 32560
                                • UK

                                #115
                                Re: A guide to fixing/troubleshooting some common plasma TV problems

                                Go by part number e.g. TNPAxxxx not TV model if that helps.
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                                • voy2k
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                                  • Apr 2013
                                  • 5
                                  • USA

                                  #116
                                  Re: A guide to fixing/troubleshooting some common plasma TV problems

                                  Definitely. There's a group in Texas that seems to have it in stock so I'll check all connections on the current board tonight and if I don't have any luck, I'll order another board and give it one more try.

                                  It feels so close, I just can't give up yet!

                                  Thanks,
                                  Voy

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                                  • MadTogger
                                    New Member
                                    • May 2013
                                    • 5
                                    • England

                                    #117
                                    Re: A guide to fixing/troubleshooting some common plasma TV problems

                                    I have a Panasonic TX-P65ST50, had it for just 5 months now and in the last couple of weeks I have been experiencing this issue:



                                    When there is any panning shots, peoples faces tend to smear across the screen lacking detail and very contoured and there is a coloured rainbow effect on these contours.

                                    This also happens when watching Black & White shows.

                                    It happens on all sources i.e. my Sky+HD box and my BluRay player and whether I am watching SD or HD content.

                                    Can this issue be repaired?

                                    Kind regards..,

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                                    • tom66
                                      EVs Rule
                                      • Apr 2011
                                      • 32560
                                      • UK

                                      #118
                                      Re: A guide to fixing/troubleshooting some common plasma TV problems

                                      Yes, it is more than likely a bad A board, since the TV is new, the A board should be cheap.
                                      You can try and diagnose the fault using the service mode:
                                      • Make sure you're on a working source
                                      • Hold minus button / channel down button on TV
                                      • Press zero three times
                                      • Wait around 10 seconds -- screen will flicker and picture settings will appear to change (they will revert to your settings once you exit the menu.)
                                      • When the menu appears press red twice. Test patterns appear and audio mutes.
                                      • Press red until you get to a gradient test pattern.
                                      • Does the test pattern also show distortion?
                                      • When done press exit or return on remote control, or turn TV off then on again.
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                                      • MadTogger
                                        New Member
                                        • May 2013
                                        • 5
                                        • England

                                        #119
                                        Re: A guide to fixing/troubleshooting some common plasma TV problems

                                        Thanks for replying.

                                        Tried what you said and couldn't see any distortion.

                                        Regards..,

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                                        • tom66
                                          EVs Rule
                                          • Apr 2011
                                          • 32560
                                          • UK

                                          #120
                                          Re: A guide to fixing/troubleshooting some common plasma TV problems

                                          You got test patterns, but they were clear, even the gradient ones? (Press red once each time to step through the available patterns.)
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