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  • Khron
    Badcaps Legend
    • Sep 2006
    • 1350
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    #81
    Re: Stumped this weird G4 power supply problem

    More often than not, electrolytics are specced with a tolerance of +/-20% (code letter M, on some).

    Aaaand you might wanna check the FAQ Preferably ALL of it (well, the first 11 posts, at least)
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    • JOHNBOY
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 78

      #82
      Re: Stumped this weird G4 power supply problem

      I put a one of the low ESR caps in the pic to tease you guys.
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      • Khron
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        • Sep 2006
        • 1350
        • Finland

        #83
        Re: Stumped this weird G4 power supply problem

        It would be nice if we could actually SEE something there, too
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        • JOHNBOY
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 78

          #84
          Re: Stumped this weird G4 power supply problem

          Originally posted by Khron666
          It would be nice if we could actually SEE something there, too
          What's the problem with it. The pic looks fine to me. I know its low res but I took it on my nokia with no flash.

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          • Khron
            Badcaps Legend
            • Sep 2006
            • 1350
            • Finland

            #85
            Re: Stumped this weird G4 power supply problem

            Well, a better look at that "low esr" cap, for instance? Or maybe i just missed the object of the "tease"
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            • JOHNBOY
              Senior Member
              • May 2010
              • 78

              #86
              Re: Stumped this weird G4 power supply problem

              This was my original intention before you guys set me straight. The upper left with the gold is the ultra low ESR, right below it in blue is 'forever' and some other unknowns, some of the littles ones are rubycon and samxon, the little ones on the strip are IT or ITT. My good ones are coming next week.
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              • JOHNBOY
                Senior Member
                • May 2010
                • 78

                #87
                Re: Stumped this weird G4 power supply problem

                Looking at it now altogether and it does look like a ghetto recap.

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                • Scenic
                  o.O
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 2642
                  • Germany

                  #88
                  Re: Stumped this weird G4 power supply problem

                  i wouldnt even bother soldering that crap in o.O

                  the only useful (quality) caps are the nippon chemicon (the brown one) and the panasonic above of it. both not low ESR though..

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                  • retiredcaps
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 9271

                    #89
                    Re: Stumped this weird G4 power supply problem

                    I'm still learning about DMMs, but how is this cap tester from ebay different from a DMM that has capacitance tester built in (other than min/max range)?

                    BTW, for the Canadians, I see that Canadian Tire has their full autoranging DMM on sale for $20 (regular $60). This one has a capacitor test included.

                    See (Product #52-0052-2)

                    http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/brows....jsp?locale=en

                    Manual is at

                    http://sitebuilder.tradeeasy.com/sho.../52-0052EN.doc

                    Manual says 40nF to 100uF which would be limited use for LCD monitor testing as many the caps that I see bloated are 470uF, 680uF, and 1000uF.

                    And yes, I have been to eevblog and watched Dave Jones' multimeter shootouts with facisination.

                    Originally posted by JOHNBOY
                    I put a one of the low ESR caps in the pic to tease you guys.
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                    • JOHNBOY
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 78

                      #90
                      Re: Stumped this weird G4 power supply problem

                      Originally posted by retiredcaps
                      I'm still learning about DMMs, but how is this cap tester from ebay different from a DMM that has capacitance tester built in (other than min/max range)?

                      It isn't any different in function except that those ones included in a multimeter generally have a smaller range. The ones built in to a DMM are 200uf to 400uf. I'm sure there are better ones but the $50 range is all under 400uf. So I get up to 20mf with this and I already have a good DMM so I didn't want a cheap 2 in 1. Some on ebay went to 2000uf , even that isn't good enough for a G4 as the trouble caps are 2200/2700/3300.

                      Where do you see a capacitor tester in the CT model ? That seems like a big sale but really that DMM is usually $20-$25 from the stores I go to without a sale.. It isn't bad for $20, if someone needs a first model this is a good buy.

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                      • retiredcaps
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                        • Apr 2010
                        • 9271

                        #91
                        Re: Stumped this weird G4 power supply problem

                        Originally posted by JOHNBOY
                        Some on ebay went to 2000uf , even that isn't good enough for a G4 as the trouble caps are 2200/2700/3300.

                        Where do you see a capacitor tester in the CT model ?
                        The cap function is just right of the off button on the DMM. The cap probe jack is the same as the volt/ohm. It is also documented in the manual for this DMM.

                        I see that some LCD and plasma TVs use 3300uF caps.
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                        • JOHNBOY
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 78

                          #92
                          Re: Stumped this weird G4 power supply problem

                          I see now.. but only up to a 100uF

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                          • Khron
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                            • Sep 2006
                            • 1350
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                            #93
                            Re: Stumped this weird G4 power supply problem

                            JOHNBOY, i think you'd be best off checking the BadCaps stock (on the home page) and place an order here. At least you'd be sure to get quality low-esr caps.

                            Disclaimer: I have no business interest, i only believe it would be the simplest way out for all parties involved
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                            • JOHNBOY
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 78

                              #94
                              Re: Stumped this weird G4 power supply problem

                              I contacted the guy who sells them. He never replied, I contacted him again 2 weeks later, he replied this time but never replied to the order request. Waste of time.

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                              • JOHNBOY
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 78

                                #95
                                Re: Stumped this weird G4 power supply problem

                                Which series are acceptable out of these for my power supply ?

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                                • 370forlife
                                  Large Marge
                                  • Aug 2008
                                  • 3112
                                  • United States

                                  #96
                                  Re: Stumped this weird G4 power supply problem

                                  You don't have to email him with your order, just go to his store on the main site and start shopping.

                                  https://www.badcaps.net/pages.php?vid=22

                                  https://www.badcaps.net/pages.php?vid=24

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                                  • ratdude747
                                    Black Sheep
                                    • Nov 2008
                                    • 17136
                                    • USA

                                    #97
                                    Re: Stumped this weird G4 power supply problem

                                    yeah, go shop and have fun... use the store...
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                                    • JOHNBOY
                                      Senior Member
                                      • May 2010
                                      • 78

                                      #98
                                      Re: Stumped this weird G4 power supply problem

                                      No good. He only has about half of them required and out of that half several are out of stock.

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                                      • ratdude747
                                        Black Sheep
                                        • Nov 2008
                                        • 17136
                                        • USA

                                        #99
                                        Re: Stumped this weird G4 power supply problem

                                        didgikey or mouser then...
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                                        • JOHNBOY
                                          Senior Member
                                          • May 2010
                                          • 78

                                          #100
                                          Re: Stumped this weird G4 power supply problem

                                          I'm fine. I already ordered most of them, just need to know what works out of those rubycons for the last few.

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