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  • predator0357
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 159
    • Israel

    #21
    Re: ocz 420 u12 swollen caps

    Originally posted by c_hegge
    ^
    Try this fella - http://stores.ebay.com.au/PC-MotherB...pacitors-Store

    His caps are all NOS, but they should work OK. Topcat here doesn't have much in the way of PSU caps.

    I see two 470uF 16V caps (the Fuhjyyus). They can get replaced by these (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/6-Rubycon...item43c09e20c5)

    2200uF 10V caps can get replaced by these (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/8-pcs-Rub...item43c0209c72)

    4700uF 10V caps can be replaced by these (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4-NCC-KZE...item43a7c69012). And yes, using 6.3V caps in place of 10V caps is fine on the output
    tnx for the help:-)
    I saw this seller here and saveded it, i picked the 2200 ncc kze and the 4700 u gave me is 6.3v and i need 10v so i found one seller that look ok by the feedbacks he got and the things hes selleing.
    Here the url for this seller
    http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...755275&alt=web


    Or

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-JAPAN-Pana...-/131215755275
    Last edited by predator0357; 07-09-2014, 10:04 PM.

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    • c_hegge
      Badcaps Legend
      • Sep 2009
      • 5219
      • Australia

      #22
      Re: ocz 420 u12 swollen caps

      Feedback means absolutely nothing when your dealing with caps. 99.9% of people who buy them have no idea how to tell the difference. That seller is not one of the reputed ones, so I wouldn't use it. As I said, there is no problem with replacing 10V caps with 6.3V ones - as they are used on the 5v and 3.3v rails anyway.
      I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

      No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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      • predator0357
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2014
        • 159
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        #23
        Re: ocz 420 u12 swollen caps

        Ok if u said its ok i say aman:-)
        Tnx very much for the help, my after the psu its like a ballon hehehehe
        Its hard here in israel cuz there no anh store that have hi end caps only GP caps and even those if dont buy alot its expencive
        For exmple i bought 7 GP caps cost me 5.2$

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        • predator0357
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2014
          • 159
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          #24
          Re: ocz 420 u12 swollen caps

          Originally posted by c_hegge
          Feedback means absolutely nothing when your dealing with caps. 99.9% of people who buy them have no idea how to tell the difference. That seller is not one of the reputed ones, so I wouldn't use it. As I said, there is no problem with replacing 10V caps with 6.3V ones - as they are used on the 5v and 3.3v rails anyway.
          Hi, in this seller he have bouth caps ncc kze, why not buy those?

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          • c_hegge
            Badcaps Legend
            • Sep 2009
            • 5219
            • Australia

            #25
            Re: ocz 420 u12 swollen caps

            You could do that. It wouldn't make much difference, though.
            I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

            No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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            • Behemot
              Badcaps Legend
              • Dec 2009
              • 4845
              • CZ

              #26
              Re: ocz 420 u12 swollen caps

              If you wanna I have some nice D10 caps, Samxon RS 3300 uF/16V and NCC KYA 3300 uF/6,3 V. Can pretty supply equivalent of everything in there. I also sell some on eBay but you will get it cheaper directly from me…
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              • predator0357
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2014
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                #27
                Re: ocz 420 u12 swollen caps

                Hi every1,
                I need pls every1 who could tell what cap is cuz this little busterd is glued and i dont want 2 scrapted him now

                Tnx 4 the help:-)
                Attached Files

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                • selldoor
                  Slow Learner
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 7870

                  #28
                  Re: ocz 420 u12 swollen caps

                  You will still need to get the glue off the resistor at the side of it. The glue goes conductive with time and may short it out . Sometimes the glue will soften slightly with repeat coats of IPA.
                  If you put shiney tinfoil down the side at an angle your camera may capture a mirror image of the detail on the side of the cap?
                  Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                  • predator0357
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 159
                    • Israel

                    #29
                    Re: ocz 420 u12 swollen caps

                    Originally posted by selldoor
                    You will still need to get the glue off the resistor at the side of it. The glue goes conductive with time and may short it out . Sometimes the glue will soften slightly with repeat coats of IPA.
                    If you put shiney tinfoil down the side at an angle your camera may capture a mirror image of the detail on the side of the cap?
                    Tnx 4 the advice on the glue and amazing idea with tinfoil
                    IPA What is it?

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                    • stj
                      Great Sage 齊天大聖
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 30930
                      • Albion

                      #30
                      Re: ocz 420 u12 swollen caps

                      ipa = isopropyl alcahol

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                      • predator0357
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2014
                        • 159
                        • Israel

                        #31
                        Re: ocz 420 u12 swollen caps

                        Hello every body,
                        After close combat with the PSU i got all the values and the main caps that i picked to replace are:
                        NCC KZE 6.3V 4700UF
                        NCC KZE 10V 2200UF
                        Nippon ChemiCon NCC LXJ Series 16V 2200UF
                        Nippon ChemiCon NCC SXE Series 16V 3300UF
                        Nichicon PW 10V 1000UF
                        Nichicon PM 16V 470UF

                        So what do u thinks about the list? The brand\series are ok?

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                        • c_hegge
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 5219
                          • Australia

                          #32
                          Re: ocz 420 u12 swollen caps

                          Those would do fine. Some like the SXEs might be somewhat larger physically than the originals, and be a bit of a tight squeeze to get in (although you could probably get around that by mounting them a few mm off the PCB), but their electrical specifications should be OK.

                          I'd recommend replacing as many of the really small capacitors as you can too.

                          Here are some options for some of the more common sizes (although I'm not sure how many of these apply to your power supply)

                          1uF - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/15-NCC-LX...item43c00a435f
                          4.7uF - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/15-Panaso...item460a1a1518
                          10uF - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/10-NCC-KY...item461e62f143
                          22uF - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/12-Nichic...item46046b0183
                          47uF - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/8-Rubycon...item43c09e4709
                          100uF - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/12-Rubyco...item4613a3b283
                          Last edited by c_hegge; 07-12-2014, 01:53 AM.
                          I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                          No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

                          Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

                          Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

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                          • predator0357
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2014
                            • 159
                            • Israel

                            #33
                            Re: ocz 420 u12 swollen caps

                            Originally posted by c_hegge
                            Those would do fine. Some like the SXEs might be somewhat larger physically than the originals, and be a bit of a tight squeeze to get in (although you could probably get around that by mounting them a few mm off the PCB), but their electrical specifications should be OK.

                            I'd recommend replacing as many of the really small capacitors as you can too.

                            Here are some options for some of the more common sizes (although I'm not sure how many of these apply to your power supply)

                            1uF - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/15-NCC-LX...item43c00a435f
                            4.7uF - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/15-Panaso...item460a1a1518
                            10uF - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/10-NCC-KY...item461e62f143
                            22uF - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/12-Nichic...item46046b0183
                            47uF - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/8-Rubycon...item43c09e4709
                            100uF - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/12-Rubyco...item4613a3b283
                            i have in the PSU:
                            470uf\16v
                            220uf\16v and i have 220uf\25v ky
                            47uf\35v
                            47uf\16v
                            4.7uf\50v
                            1uf\50v
                            0.47uf\50v

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                            • c_hegge
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 5219
                              • Australia

                              #34
                              Re: ocz 420 u12 swollen caps

                              You are covered for most of those with the list I posted. You can use the 47uF 50V caps to replace both the 35V and 16V parts. The 0.47uF is a bit harder. The only 105*C cap available from PCMCS is an audio cap - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-ELNA-Au...item43ca6107a4. It would probably do fine as the original is probably only a general purpose cap anyway. You could probably also use a ceramic cap. I've done that to Antec Smartpower PSUs lots of times when replacing a small 0.1uF electrolytics.
                              I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                              No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

                              Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

                              Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

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                              • predator0357
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2014
                                • 159
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                                #35
                                Re: ocz 420 u12 swollen caps

                                Tnx 4 the help
                                But what with the 220uf/16v can i put 25v?

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                                • Behemot
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Dec 2009
                                  • 4845
                                  • CZ

                                  #36
                                  Re: ocz 420 u12 swollen caps

                                  I have all of those caps (or equivalents) but 0,47 uF and 220 (no stock ATM). I think even some old used KZE 4700 uF/6,3 V but if you ask me this is way too high current/low ESR for only 420W PSU, this was MB grade capacitor in the times of this PSU.

                                  Samxon RS 3300 uF/16 V in D10x30 offers practically the same as NCC SXE in D12,5x40 mm.

                                  Last but not least, I have way better prices over the c_hegges eBay list. Check.

                                  predator0357: higher voltage is OK if it also fits physically.
                                  Last edited by Behemot; 07-12-2014, 05:02 AM.
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                                  • predator0357
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                                    #37
                                    Re: ocz 420 u12 swollen caps

                                    PCMCS have 0.47\50v panasonic [M] its good enogh?
                                    or just put GP caps from my class?

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                                    • Behemot
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                                      • Dec 2009
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                                      • CZ

                                      #38
                                      Re: ocz 420 u12 swollen caps

                                      Yep Panny is good brad, I would let it be.
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                                      • predator0357
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                                        #39
                                        Re: ocz 420 u12 swollen caps

                                        Originally posted by Behemot
                                        Yep Panny is good brad, I would let it be.
                                        what? "Panny is good brad"?

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                                        • Behemot
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                                          • Dec 2009
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                                          #40
                                          Re: ocz 420 u12 swollen caps

                                          Panasonic? M is for Matsushita Electric Industrial, former name of Panasonic Corporation.

                                          What's the complete list you need with quantity of each cap type?
                                          Last edited by Behemot; 07-12-2014, 05:15 AM.
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