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  • bauto601
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 102
    • Netherlands

    #1

    Upgrade a 300watt noname power supply

    Hello,
    I have a generic 300watt power supply. The type of the power supply is: Model: ATX-300.

    Here are some pictures of the power supply:

    The overview of the power supply. It looks better than a lc 300watt psu.


    The secondary side of this power supply:


    And some information of the psu:

    STPS2045CT


    STPS1545CT


    BYQ28E


    The filtering stage and the 2 big capacitors:


    I think the diodes are 4Amps and the big capacitors are 470UF 200V

    How can i upgrade this power supply? I want to upgrade it because i want to learn something about power supply's and i like to solder. I was thinking to upgrade the rectifiers at the secondary part of this power supply, but what do you think guys?

    [Sorry for my bad english, i am 13 years old and dutch, but i am learning it!]
  • c_hegge
    Badcaps Legend
    • Sep 2009
    • 5219
    • Australia

    #2
    Re: Upgrade a 300watt noname power supply

    Your English is not bad at all, actually.

    Yes, I'd make sure the rectifiers are all rated for at least 30A. Also, it looks like that PSU used fuhjyyu capacitors. Replace them with Japanese counterparts. It looks like there's ample room for larger capacitors too, so beef the ones after all of the coils up to 2200 or 3300uF.

    The OEM for this PSU is Channel Well (CWT).

    EDIT: You could also improve the primary side. Replace the diodes (those are 3A, not 4) with a 6A rectifier, and the primary caps with 680uF or better.
    Last edited by c_hegge; 12-15-2012, 04:44 AM.
    I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

    No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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    • bauto601
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 102
      • Netherlands

      #3
      Re: Upgrade a 300watt noname power supply

      Nice to hear that my english is not so bad at all! So larger primary caps, bigger rectifiers at the secondary, bigger caps at the secondary and replace the diodes for a 6A rectifier. And how much can the power supply deliver after changing all the components?

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      • goodpsusearch
        Badcaps Legend
        • Oct 2009
        • 2850
        • Greece

        #4
        Re: Upgrade a 300watt noname power supply

        Originally posted by bauto601
        Nice to hear that my english is not so bad at all! So larger primary caps, bigger rectifiers at the secondary, bigger caps at the secondary and replace the diodes for a 6A rectifier. And how much can the power supply deliver after changing all the components?
        What switching transistors does the psu have?

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        • bauto601
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 102
          • Netherlands

          #5
          Re: Upgrade a 300watt noname power supply

          Originally posted by goodpsusearch
          What switching transistors does the psu have?
          Do you mean the components on the primary heatsink?

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          • goodpsusearch
            Badcaps Legend
            • Oct 2009
            • 2850
            • Greece

            #6
            Re: Upgrade a 300watt noname power supply

            Originally posted by bauto601
            Do you mean the components on the primary heatsink?
            Yes.

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            • bauto601
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 102
              • Netherlands

              #7
              Re: Upgrade a 300watt noname power supply

              Originally posted by goodpsusearch
              Yes.
              I'm not at home at the moment, tomorrow i wil post the specifications of them.

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              • pdavid
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Jan 2011
                • 279
                • Hungary

                #8
                Re: Upgrade a 300watt noname power supply

                Had like two dozen of these CWT psus at work and even after six years (24/7) they sort of worked. Standby gets a little cooked and sometimes the primary capacitors (Koshin) start to bulge.
                If you can do as others suggested and put an even bigger transformer, (like ERL35) 13009 primary transistors and 680uF capacitors plus recap and upgrade the secondary I think this psu would be a good emergency spare. I hope this helps.
                Also here is one of the lowest-of-the-low versions of this psu claming 300W but exploding at 200W.
                Attached Files

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                • bauto601
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 102
                  • Netherlands

                  #9
                  Re: Upgrade a 300watt noname power supply

                  Here are they:

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                  • c_hegge
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 5219
                    • Australia

                    #10
                    Re: Upgrade a 300watt noname power supply

                    13007s. I can never pull more than about 250W from them without blowing them up. I'd replace them with 13009s, D209Ls, or 2SC3307s
                    I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                    No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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                    • Pentium4
                      CapXon Be Gone
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 3741
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Upgrade a 300watt noname power supply

                      If you're going to upgrade to 30A rectifiers then you need a better heatsink for the secondary. You don't HAVE to use japanese caps on the input but it doesn't hurt, and I'd use 680uF caps instead of 470. I would add a bridge 6A rectifier to replace the diodes. They look decent but their ratings go down a lot when they get hot. I'm guessing that thing has probably 1 or 2 caps for 12V filtering so definitely increase the capacitance on those caps, at least 2200uF, preferably 3300uF. Replace those orange ceramic discs on the primary with matching Y caps, and if you're up to it solder an X cap to the AC receptacle. The transformer looks good enough...Also, I would replace the fan with a high quality ball bearing fan
                      Edit: didn't realize hegge mentioned some of the same things
                      Last edited by Pentium4; 12-15-2012, 04:41 PM.

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                      • bauto601
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 102
                        • Netherlands

                        #12
                        Re: Upgrade a 300watt noname power supply

                        Hello, here i am again
                        Thanks for the tips P4! I am going to replacing the secondary rectifiers tomorrow. You say that i need a bigger heatsink on the secondary, i can do this but i can also add a second fan that blows right on the heatsinks like here:
                        http://laptopshopcyprus.com/41-247-l...aptop-shop.jpg

                        Another question: I am going to replace the 3,3/5v rectifiers for bigger one's that are skottky. But at the 12v there are only holes in the pcb for a small rectifier. So i am going to replace the 12v rectifier to another stronger rectifier that is also a small one but that one is not skottky. Tomorrow i will post pictures and specs of the new rectifiers.

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                        • goodpsusearch
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 2850
                          • Greece

                          #13
                          Re: Upgrade a 300watt noname power supply

                          Originally posted by c_hegge
                          13007s. I can never pull more than about 250W from them without blowing them up. I'd replace them with 13009s, D209Ls, or 2SC3307s
                          +1

                          250W max

                          300W peak for couple of seconds maybe

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                          • Pentium4
                            CapXon Be Gone
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 3741
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Upgrade a 300watt noname power supply

                            Originally posted by bauto601
                            Hello, here i am again
                            Thanks for the tips P4! I am going to replacing the secondary rectifiers tomorrow. You say that i need a bigger heatsink on the secondary, i can do this but i can also add a second fan that blows right on the heatsinks like here:
                            http://laptopshopcyprus.com/41-247-l...aptop-shop.jpg

                            Another question: I am going to replace the 3,3/5v rectifiers for bigger one's that are skottky. But at the 12v there are only holes in the pcb for a small rectifier. So i am going to replace the 12v rectifier to another stronger rectifier that is also a small one but that one is not skottky. Tomorrow i will post pictures and specs of the new rectifiers.
                            That extra fan would help a lot! Especially if it's always getting 12V. Yeah that's typical of an older design. A 20A schottky for 12V would still be a good improvement. And yeah there's nothing wrong with your english, it's better than a lot of native speakers in my area

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                            • TELVM
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 547
                              • Spain

                              #15
                              Re: Upgrade a 300watt noname power supply

                              Originally posted by bauto601
                              ... i can also add a second fan that blows right on the heatsinks like here:
                              http://laptopshopcyprus.com/41-247-l...aptop-shop.jpg
                              I'd put the second fan this way:


                              Straighter flow and less turbulence = better cooling.

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                              • c_hegge
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 5219
                                • Australia

                                #16
                                Re: Upgrade a 300watt noname power supply

                                That's how I'd do it on this PSU. With the shape of the heat sinks, they will work better with front to back airflow, not 90 degree top to back.

                                EDIT: I went on a similar venture to this with a Rexpower PL-400 power supply. You mey find that thread interesting - https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11247
                                Last edited by c_hegge; 12-15-2012, 08:07 PM.
                                I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                                No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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                                • Logistics
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                                  • Apr 2007
                                  • 721
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Upgrade a 300watt noname power supply

                                  OP's PSU looks almost exactly like an Antec PSU I recapped in the past; either a PP-303X or an SL-350. Can't remember which one, but it looks SO familiar.
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                                  • bauto601
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Sep 2012
                                    • 102
                                    • Netherlands

                                    #18
                                    Re: Upgrade a 300watt noname power supply

                                    Here a pictures of the power supply now:


                                    All the parts i use in this power supply come from other (broken) power supply's. So i found this heatsink on a old broken power supply:

                                    The red line on the big heatsink is the line that i am going to follow if i am sawing the heatsink in the right shape (is that good english )
                                    I am going to place a fan at the front of the power supply and at the back of the power supply.

                                    Here a picture of the new (ehhh.. from a old psu) rectifiers:


                                    I can't find anything of the 1st rectifier.




                                    Are these rectifiers good ones? And how can i replace the diodes with a rectifier? I also hear that i have to replace almost whole the power supply so this is going to be a job for the whole week

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                                    • c_hegge
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Sep 2009
                                      • 5219
                                      • Australia

                                      #19
                                      Re: Upgrade a 300watt noname power supply

                                      Those rectifiers are fine. Use the BYV42E on the 12V rail, the MBR4045 on the 5V rail and the SBL4040 on the 3.3V Rail. Sometimes, if you unsolder the 4 diodes, the PCB will be screened for a rectifier as well. Do that and post a shot of what's under there.

                                      Your new heat sink looks nice and chunky, although you may have to drill a couple of extra screw holes for the rectifiers. I'd install it with the overhang over the toroid coils and caps, not over the transformer. The other consideration is that you don't want the primary heat sink to be much smaller than the secondary one if the fans will have a speed controller, because the secondary heat sink (which controls the fans) could stay cool, while the primary heat sink is red hot, and the fans won't speed up.
                                      I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                                      No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

                                      Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

                                      Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

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                                      • bauto601
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Sep 2012
                                        • 102
                                        • Netherlands

                                        #20
                                        Re: Upgrade a 300watt noname power supply

                                        Originally posted by c_hegge
                                        Those rectifiers are fine. Use the BYV42E on the 12V rail, the MBR4045 on the 5V rail and the SBL4040 on the 3.3V Rail. Sometimes, if you unsolder the 4 diodes, the PCB will be screened for a rectifier as well. Do that and post a shot of what's under there.

                                        Your new heat sink looks nice and chunky, although you may have to drill a couple of extra screw holes for the rectifiers. I'd install it with the overhang over the toroid coils and caps, not over the transformer. The other consideration is that you don't want the primary heat sink to be much smaller than the secondary one if the fans will have a speed controller, because the secondary heat sink (which controls the fans) could stay cool, while the primary heat sink is red hot, and the fans won't speed up.
                                        To begin:
                                        I don't know which rectifier is what so i don't know which is the the 3,3, 5 and 12v rectifier. Can you tell me which rectifier is what? The big heatsink is made of too thick material so it wil short some components on the pcb.. But from another psu i have these heatsinks:

                                        Are these big enough?

                                        Also, this psu has no fan control so it is making terrible noise when it's on. After replacing the rectifiers i am going to test the unit and a.fter the testing i am going to unsolder the diodes.

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