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  • SpyCaps
    Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 28

    #21
    Re: NEWTON POWER NPS-180 Can't Start

    Originally posted by PCBONEZ
    This is NPS-180EB.
    http://www.oemliquidators.com/search...%20-%206500724

    - What version/revision do you have?
    Hi PCBONEZ,

    My version is NPS-180BP. Can i find a schematic of NPS-180?

    I want to fix because i like this dell machine and train electronic skill myself.

    New supply find difficult in my city. Then i decided to fix it. ^ ^

    Please help me to find the bad in this supply. Thanks you all.

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    • PCBONEZ
      Grumpy Old Fart
      • Aug 2005
      • 10661
      • USA

      #22
      Re: NEWTON POWER NPS-180 Can't Start

      Finding a schematic is unlikely.
      They like to keep their designs secret.

      What Dell machine is it in? [What model of Dell?]

      Can you post a photo of the whole unit please.
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      • PCBONEZ
        Grumpy Old Fart
        • Aug 2005
        • 10661
        • USA

        #23
        Re: NEWTON POWER NPS-180 Can't Start

        Are you sure you read the label correctly?
        I can't find any mention of a NPS-180PB anywhere.
        NPS-180BB is a Dell proprietary unit [and very common.]
        NPS-200PB seems to be a basic uATX size PSU.
        [Although if it was in an old Dell P3 system some had proprietary pin-outs.]
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        • SpyCaps
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          • Mar 2011
          • 28

          #24
          Re: NEWTON POWER NPS-180 Can't Start

          Originally posted by PCBONEZ
          Are you sure you read the label correctly?
          I can't find any mention of a NPS-180PB anywhere.
          NPS-180BB is a Dell proprietary unit [and very common.]
          NPS-200PB seems to be a basic uATX size PSU.
          [Although if it was in an old Dell P3 system some had proprietary pin-outs.]
          .

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          • PCBONEZ
            Grumpy Old Fart
            • Aug 2005
            • 10661
            • USA

            #25
            Re: NEWTON POWER NPS-180 Can't Start

            That's not what I was looking for. - It does not help at all.

            The PCB number is rarely what the model number is.
            That same PCB might get used in 20 different models.
            It is the model number on the box that helps to find things.

            - I need to see a picture of the sheet metal box that goes into.
            - I need to know the model number of the Dell it came in.
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            • SpyCaps
              Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 28

              #26
              Re: NEWTON POWER NPS-180 Can't Start

              HI PCBONEZ,

              here is your request.


              Yellow should be 12V that u told us.

              Why this power is 10V? Where is the problem? I'm so tried for fixing it.

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              • Th3_uN1Qu3
                Believe in
                • Jul 2010
                • 6031
                • Romania

                #27
                Re: NEWTON POWER NPS-180 Can't Start

                It may need a minimum load on 5v for 12v to operate correctly. Connect a spare hard drive to it and see if it goes in spec.
                Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
                A working TV? How boring!

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                • PCBONEZ
                  Grumpy Old Fart
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 10661
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: NEWTON POWER NPS-180 Can't Start

                  So it looks like this then?
                  -
                  That is a very common Dell part used in.
                  Dell Optiplex GX60 Small Desktop
                  Dell Optiplex GX240 Small Desktop
                  Dell Optiplex GX260 Small Desktop
                  Dell Optiplex GX270 Small Desktop
                  And some others.

                  Should not be hard to find even in THAILAND but search for Dell PSU instead of NPS PSU.
                  There are maybe 3 Dell PSUs that fit but that are not NPS.

                  Also now that we know exactly what it is some members may actually have one to look at/check to help answer questions.

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                  • PCBONEZ
                    Grumpy Old Fart
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 10661
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: NEWTON POWER NPS-180 Can't Start

                    Dell Optiplex GX280 Small Desktop has one that fits but it is 210 watts.
                    [Upgrade]
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                    • PCBONEZ
                      Grumpy Old Fart
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 10661
                      • USA

                      #30
                      Re: NEWTON POWER NPS-180 Can't Start

                      Originally posted by Th3_uN1Qu3
                      It may need a minimum load on 5v for 12v to operate correctly. Connect a spare hard drive to it and see if it goes in spec.
                      Good idea.
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                      • SpyCaps
                        Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 28

                        #31
                        Re: NEWTON POWER NPS-180 Can't Start

                        Originally posted by Th3_uN1Qu3
                        It may need a minimum load on 5v for 12v to operate correctly. Connect a spare hard drive to it and see if it goes in spec.
                        But!! now it not turn on

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                        • SpyCaps
                          Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 28

                          #32
                          Re: NEWTON POWER NPS-180 Can't Start

                          Originally posted by PCBONEZ
                          So it looks like this then?
                          -
                          That is a very common Dell part used in.
                          Dell Optiplex GX60 Small Desktop
                          Dell Optiplex GX240 Small Desktop
                          Dell Optiplex GX260 Small Desktop
                          Dell Optiplex GX270 Small Desktop
                          And some others.

                          Should not be hard to find even in THAILAND but search for Dell PSU instead of NPS PSU.
                          There are maybe 3 Dell PSUs that fit but that are not NPS.

                          Also now that we know exactly what it is some members may actually have one to look at/check to help answer questions.

                          .
                          Replace it?

                          Why we not repair it? I have tools and knowledge (maybe a little bit).

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                          • PCBONEZ
                            Grumpy Old Fart
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 10661
                            • USA

                            #33
                            Re: NEWTON POWER NPS-180 Can't Start

                            You said you were repairing it because you couldn't find one and you want the system back.

                            Replacing it to get the system back doesn't keep you from fixing the old one,,, now does it..
                            Mann-Made Global Warming.
                            - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                            -
                            Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                            - Dr Seuss
                            -
                            You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                            -

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                            • PCBONEZ
                              Grumpy Old Fart
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 10661
                              • USA

                              #34
                              Re: NEWTON POWER NPS-180 Can't Start

                              Originally posted by SpyCaps
                              But!! now it not turn on
                              It may be a short on the drive drive.
                              Try a different drive.
                              If it does that again it is the PSU.
                              Mann-Made Global Warming.
                              - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                              -
                              Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                              - Dr Seuss
                              -
                              You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                              -

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                              • SpyCaps
                                Member
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 28

                                #35
                                Re: NEWTON POWER NPS-180 Can't Start

                                Originally posted by PCBONEZ
                                You said you were repairing it because you couldn't find one and you want the system back.

                                Replacing it to get the system back doesn't keep you from fixing the old one,,, now does it..
                                I love this old dell and I decided for repairing.

                                This system not important now because i have an other machine.

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                                • SpyCaps
                                  Member
                                  • Mar 2011
                                  • 28

                                  #36
                                  Re: NEWTON POWER NPS-180 Can't Start

                                  Originally posted by PCBONEZ
                                  It may be a short on the drive drive.
                                  Try a different drive.
                                  If it does that again it is the PSU.
                                  I'm not connect any drive to PSU. Test the PSU by short green and black together and power not turn on, fan twists, and then down.

                                  After that I replaced all CAPS in secondary module, But problem stills alive.

                                  How can i do? No one know about a schematic of it.

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                                  • PCBONEZ
                                    Grumpy Old Fart
                                    • Aug 2005
                                    • 10661
                                    • USA

                                    #37
                                    Re: NEWTON POWER NPS-180 Can't Start

                                    PSU will not start without a load.

                                    They do not make these schematics public.

                                    .
                                    Mann-Made Global Warming.
                                    - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                                    -
                                    Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                                    - Dr Seuss
                                    -
                                    You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                                    -

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                                    • SpyCaps
                                      Member
                                      • Mar 2011
                                      • 28

                                      #38
                                      Re: NEWTON POWER NPS-180 Can't Start

                                      Originally posted by PCBONEZ
                                      PSU will not start without a load.

                                      They do not make these schematics public.

                                      .
                                      http://www.ochardware.com/articles/p.../psuvolt2.html

                                      Why this psu doesnot start like several psu?

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                                      • PCBONEZ
                                        Grumpy Old Fart
                                        • Aug 2005
                                        • 10661
                                        • USA

                                        #39
                                        Re: NEWTON POWER NPS-180 Can't Start

                                        That PSU is in a case. - It has drives connected.

                                        Some modern PSU's will start without load, but not very many.

                                        The people in -THIS- forum know what they are doing and make few mistakes.
                                        -
                                        If you don't want to follow our advice then stay in one of those other forums you are asking the same questions in and don't waste our time.
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                                        Mann-Made Global Warming.
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                                        -
                                        Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                                        - Dr Seuss
                                        -
                                        You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                                        -

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                                        • c_hegge
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Sep 2009
                                          • 5219
                                          • Australia

                                          #40
                                          Re: NEWTON POWER NPS-180 Can't Start

                                          Most standard PSUs I've seen will start with no load since the minimum load resistors inside are enough to get them to start. However, this is a non-standard PSU, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if it at least needs a few disk drives connected.
                                          I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                                          No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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