HP ProBook 4510s low voltage battery

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  • pfrcom
    Oldbie
    • Jun 2006
    • 1230
    • Australia

    #1

    HP ProBook 4510s low voltage battery

    From AliExpress I bought battery described as replacement for HP HSTNN-IB89 which is 14.4V

    What eventually arrived is marked HSTNN-1B1D, 10.8V

    Contacted vendor who said “Our battery is 10.8V ,you can install it to see if charge”

    Advised vendor that I was unwilling to risk damaging notebook by using battery 75% of required voltage

    After opening dispute with AliExpress, vendor subsequently said “we have checked it,they are compatible you can used it”

    Should I believe vendor, or is there downside(s) to trying lower voltage battery?
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    better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt
  • mcplslg123
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jun 2015
    • 7262
    • india

    #2
    Re: HP ProBook 4510s low voltage battery

    Perhaps your aliexpress battery has lower cell counts then the original one. Should work but eventually you will have lower backup hours.

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    • pfrcom
      Oldbie
      • Jun 2006
      • 1230
      • Australia

      #3
      Re: HP ProBook 4510s low voltage battery

      Thanks mcplslg123

      I've now fitted the battery, which worked fine and charged up without issue

      FWIW, this is the second Jigu branded battery I've bought

      Other was for a VAIO VGN-FW41E, where it's still going well after ~25 days

      Unlike HSW one from Aliexpress' Sunway Electronic Store which died before 10 recharges in same ProBook 4510s

      Contacted latter vendor who asked questions about how battery was treated, then stopped communicating after being unable to elicit any proof of abuse

      Jigu ones came in branded boxes with English and Cyrillic writing - HSW in a plain brown box showing how much pride its manufacturer has in their product
      better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

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      • mcplslg123
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jun 2015
        • 7262
        • india

        #4
        Re: HP ProBook 4510s low voltage battery

        @pfrcom, I was sure it will work but you need to observe the backup time you get from fully charged replacement battery compared to the original one. I beleive you will get almost 25% less backup hours.

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        • pfrcom
          Oldbie
          • Jun 2006
          • 1230
          • Australia

          #5
          Re: HP ProBook 4510s low voltage battery

          Went to use ProBook after unused overnight for ~12 hours

          Noticed orange charge light flickering, even though charger not plugged in

          Sinking feeling, pressed power button, nothing

          Notebook started with charger connected, but Windows 10 battery icon said 255% charged

          Dual-boot MX Linux showed a question mark on its battery icon, right click wouldn't show any status

          So:

          1. Is this ProBook 4510s a battery killer?

          2. Does HP somehow intentionally manage to stuff-up anything other than a genuine battery?
          better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

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          • piernov
            Super Moderator
            • Jan 2016
            • 4435
            • France

            #6
            Re: HP ProBook 4510s low voltage battery

            Market is filled with garbage batteries. I had 2 bad ones for a 4710s in a row, and happened for other laptops and for other people too.
            OpenBoardView — https://github.com/OpenBoardView/OpenBoardView

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            • jasko_jacker
              Badcaps Legend
              • Oct 2014
              • 1137
              • italy

              #7
              Re: HP ProBook 4510s low voltage battery

              I discovered this application:
              PassMark BatteryMon,
              try to use it to understand the battery status

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              • pfrcom
                Oldbie
                • Jun 2006
                • 1230
                • Australia

                #8
                Re: HP ProBook 4510s low voltage battery

                Originally posted by jasko_jacker
                PassMark BatteryMon,
                try to use it to understand the battery status
                Battery's controller seems to have had a fundamental failure (message after clicking BatteryMon Start)
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                better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

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                • pfrcom
                  Oldbie
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 1230
                  • Australia

                  #9
                  Re: HP ProBook 4510s low voltage battery

                  For comparison, here's what BatteryMon showed when I refitted the HSW battery which died before 10 recharges
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                  better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

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                  • pfrcom
                    Oldbie
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 1230
                    • Australia

                    #10
                    Re: HP ProBook 4510s low voltage battery

                    Have now opened another dispute on AliExpress with vendor Top Laptop battery Electronic Technology co., LTD

                    Their first response – couldn't be more shifty

                    “Dear friend, I guess you bought wrong battery ,our battery voltage is 10.8V ,but your old battery is 14.4V .In fact, the voltage 10.8V and 14.4V is incompatible.And we did not sent wrong model ,and our battery same as description ,here is your correct battery link: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1836...4b407056iYxtqW we can give you 10% discount to buy new battery ,and you can sell that wrong model to make money ,thank you .”

                    In contrast to their previous messages

                    “Our battery is 10.8V ,you can install it to see if charge”
                    and
                    “we have checked it,they are compatible
                    you can used it”

                    Vendor's lack of ethics illustrated by their suggestion to sell the dodgy battery they've already supplied, and misrepresented
                    better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

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