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  • bjhawfam
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 144
    • United States

    #21
    Re: G74A motherboard shuts down

    Now when I go back and check voltage I see that PLTRST# is not present when checking against pin 44 at the mini card location will continue to dig around..

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    • piernov
      Super Moderator
      • Jan 2016
      • 4435
      • France

      #22
      Re: G74A motherboard shuts down

      If the PLTRST# signal is not present, the BIOS will not start to run.
      Check for CPU VCore first.
      OpenBoardView — https://github.com/OpenBoardView/OpenBoardView

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      • bjhawfam
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2014
        • 144
        • United States

        #23
        Re: G74A motherboard shuts down

        I did check and I don't have voltage to CPU...

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        • bjhawfam
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2014
          • 144
          • United States

          #24
          So no cpu_vcore and sys_pwrok comes and goes ( Sometimes it gets power and sometimes it don't)...

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          • bjhawfam
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2014
            • 144
            • United States

            #25
            Originally posted by bjhawfam
            So no cpu_vcore and sys_pwrok comes and goes ( Sometimes it gets power and sometimes it don't)...
            Disregard on the sys_pwr (fixed)..

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            • bjhawfam
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2014
              • 144
              • United States

              #26
              Re: G74A motherboard shuts down

              Just wanted to give an update for those who may run into the same issue.. I BELIEVE there's possibly a short to ground on the vcc_rail.. I'LL Spend more time later on it.. ...(EDIT) After checking there is a short to ground..
              Last edited by bjhawfam; 04-24-2018, 10:34 PM.

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              • Thedoc298
                New Member
                • Apr 2018
                • 6
                • United States

                #27
                Re: G74A motherboard shuts down

                Originally posted by bjhawfam
                I do have an update on this matter...

                The new ITE8987E chips arrived and I replaced it today... With a new bios in place and after the ITE was soldered on I powered the laptop on and found it in the exact state as the original post.. With a new eight pin bios chip and a different g74a bios downloaded onto it,, and with a new ITE8987E chip (blank) the laptop still powers on for a second and than back off... Interestingly, I can tell you that in fact the ite8987e is programmed automatically.. With the new chip in place I created a blank 128mb file and I wrote it to the ITE via the svod programer, however, the blank file was over written automatically when powered back on... So now, either I have two bad bios (8 pin ) files or the problem lies elsewhere.
                Had the same thing happning to GA-970a-ds3p. In the end it was the cpu. Had an older cpu with same footprint, dropped it in and good to go.

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                • bjhawfam
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 144
                  • United States

                  #28
                  Re: G74A motherboard shuts down

                  Good to hear you fixed yours.... If this 8th Gen CPU is shot, The one thing I don't do is replace CPU's by de-soldering them from the board... Miss the older CPU's that you could remove and replace...

                  When I get bored I'll try and locate the short to ground.. So far I removed a few SMD's and the short still remains.. I just hope the previous owner didn't try heating the CPU....

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                  • Agent24
                    I see dead caps
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 4951
                    • New Zealand

                    #29
                    Re: G74A motherboard shuts down

                    Is it a dead short or some few ohms? CPU itself will show low ohms even when OK, but not dead short.
                    "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                    -David VanHorn

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                    • bjhawfam
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 144
                      • United States

                      #30
                      Originally posted by Agent24
                      Is it a dead short or some few ohms? CPU itself will show low ohms even when OK, but not dead short.
                      Not just a few ohms. I'll try and isolate or narrow it down. Hopefully there will be no other issues. Thanks, I'll check back when I have more.

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                      • bjhawfam
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2014
                        • 144
                        • United States

                        #31
                        Re: G74A motherboard shuts down

                        Turns out,,, it is with out a doubt a short to ground somewhere in that circuit, finding it will be a headache. Not sure if I'll spend much more time as all the components are showing the same failure due to the short.. I cant see any visual signs that would help single out a short... Thanks to all that helped and shared their ideas....

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                        • latinphoenix7
                          Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 10

                          #32
                          Originally posted by bjhawfam
                          Turns out,,, it is with out a doubt a short to ground somewhere in that circuit, finding it will be a headache. Not sure if I'll spend much more time as all the components are showing the same failure due to the short.. I cant see any visual signs that would help single out a short... Thanks to all that helped and shared their ideas....
                          Sorry for that, but I certainly think CPU is bad/damaged. I know It's hard to detect the problem. However, you should notice some OVERheat on it in a very short time (when the power button is pushed
                          ). Put a drop of isopropyl alcohol on die and you'll see...
                          Last edited by latinphoenix7; 07-25-2018, 03:32 PM.

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                          • alas3376
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 382
                            • BENIN

                            #33
                            Re: G74A motherboard shuts down

                            need boardview of this and EC dump , plz

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                            • KvnTM
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • May 2018
                              • 434
                              • Germany

                              #34
                              Re: G74A motherboard shuts down

                              Originally posted by alas3376
                              need boardview of this and EC dump , plz
                              Post your request in BIOS/Schematic Requests and don't hijack an old thread.

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                              • 12gitari
                                New Member
                                • May 2021
                                • 2
                                • kenya

                                #35
                                Re: G74A motherboard shuts down

                                i have G74a which is showing only the charger led and nothing else... most coils have no voltage what could be the most suspected problem?

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                                • sarry86
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Jun 2021
                                  • 90
                                  • Tanzania

                                  #36
                                  Click image for larger version  Name:	PXL_20240124_195257087.jpg Views:	0 Size:	7.13 MB ID:	3203582 MineMine too has same problem, all those caps and coils are shorted to ground and I have tried to remove mosfet and caps and testing them to no available, did you find what shorted the vcc core to ground? Or is it the cpu that is gone? 😭

                                  NB: I have 3 volts, 5 volts and 1.01volts
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                                  • sarry86
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Jun 2021
                                    • 90
                                    • Tanzania

                                    #37
                                    Originally posted by sarry86
                                    Click image for larger version Name:	PXL_20240124_195257087.jpg Views:	0 Size:	7.13 MB ID:	3203582 MineMine too has same problem, all those caps and coils are shorted to ground and I have tried to remove mosfet and caps and testing them to no available, did you find what shorted the vcc core to ground? Or is it the cpu that is gone? 😭

                                    NB: I have 3 volts, 5 volts and 1.01volts
                                    I have an update to the issue, I have come to realize that there's no 3 voltage on pin 11 of the ITE8987E ic, the 3V_ALW is there but doesn't reach the SIO ic

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                                    • mcplslg123
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Jun 2015
                                      • 7262
                                      • india

                                      #38
                                      Originally posted by sarry86
                                      Click image for larger version Name:	PXL_20240124_195257087.jpg Views:	0 Size:	7.13 MB ID:	3203582 MineMine too has same problem, all those caps and coils are shorted to ground and I have tried to remove mosfet and caps and testing them to no available, did you find what shorted the vcc core to ground? Or is it the cpu that is gone? 😭

                                      NB: I have 3 volts, 5 volts and 1.01volts
                                      It may not be a short. Cpu Vcore area and VCCGT area will show low resistance for onboaard cpu. What is the exact resistance to GND??(Meter should be in ohms mode and at lowest scale)

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                                      • sarry86
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Jun 2021
                                        • 90
                                        • Tanzania

                                        #39
                                        Originally posted by mcplslg123

                                        It may not be a short. Cpu Vcore area and VCCGT area will show low resistance for onboaard cpu. What is the exact resistance to GND??(Meter should be in ohms mode and at lowest scale)
                                        Thanks for responding, 16 ohms around smd caps and 4~5ohms around coils
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                                        • mcplslg123
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Jun 2015
                                          • 7262
                                          • india

                                          #40
                                          Thats not a short-its normal.

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