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  • Bisketti
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Oct 2013
    • 252
    • Ireland

    #1

    Hp 14 day11amb6e0 no Mainon

    Im working on this board day11amb6e0. On the KBC Im gettting
    RSMRST# 3.3v then to 0v immediately
    S5_ON 3.3v then 0v immediately.
    No +3v to KBC
    Mainon stays at 0v

    Also theres no +5vs5 or +3vs5

    PU11
    vin is ok
    +3vpcu is ok +3v
    S5_on 3.3v then 0v immediately
    Pgood 0v
    En2 4.5v


    PU12
    S5_on 3.3v then 0v immediately
    +5VPCU ok 5v
    pgood 0v.

    What would cause the S5_on to drop to 0v ?
    When S5_on is 3.3v then I get +5VS5 and +3VS5 for a couple of seconds then both drop to 0v because s5_on goes low.
  • Bisketti
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Oct 2013
    • 252
    • Ireland

    #2
    Re: Hp 14 day11amb6e0 no Mainon

    Still need assistance with this, ideas welcome.

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    • polytek
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Dec 2013
      • 496
      • TUNISIA

      #3
      Re: Hp 14 day11amb6e0 no Mainon

      do you have on/off fastly symptom ?
      check secondry section for short like vcc_Core vgfx 1.05 and vtt

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      • piernov
        Super Moderator
        • Jan 2016
        • 4435
        • France

        #4
        Re: Hp 14 day11amb6e0 no Mainon

        What about SUSC, SUSB and SUSON?
        OpenBoardView — https://github.com/OpenBoardView/OpenBoardView

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        • Bisketti
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Oct 2013
          • 252
          • Ireland

          #5
          Re: Hp 14 day11amb6e0 no Mainon

          Originally posted by polytek
          do you have on/off fastly symptom ?
          check secondry section for short like vcc_Core vgfx 1.05 and vtt
          Yeah doesnt seem to be a short this is Uma board also

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          • Bisketti
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Oct 2013
            • 252
            • Ireland

            #6
            Re: Hp 14 day11amb6e0 no Mainon

            Originally posted by piernov
            What about SUSC, SUSB and SUSON?
            CN9
            Pin 1 =3v drop to 0v
            Pin 2 =0v
            Pin 3 =1.28v
            Pin 4 =0v
            Pin 5=0v
            Pin 6=0v
            Pin 7=3.3v drops to 0v quickly
            Pin 9=0v
            Pin 11= 3.3v then drop to 0v
            Pin 13=0v
            Pin 15=0v
            Attached Files

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            • piernov
              Super Moderator
              • Jan 2016
              • 4435
              • France

              #7
              Re: Hp 14 day11amb6e0 no Mainon

              Seems like the board won't go to an S4 state, it's stuck in S5. The PCH is not doing its job even though it has the required voltage (indicated by the presence of RSMRST#).
              Voltage on BIOS pins?
              I'm not sure about RTC_RST#, could you measure it elsewhere? Also which schematics are you using?
              Last edited by piernov; 08-29-2017, 08:45 PM.
              OpenBoardView — https://github.com/OpenBoardView/OpenBoardView

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              • Bisketti
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Oct 2013
                • 252
                • Ireland

                #8
                Re: Hp 14 day11amb6e0 no Mainon

                Originally posted by piernov
                Seems like the board won't go to an S4 state, it's stuck in S5. The PCH is not doing its job even though it has the required voltage (indicated by the presence of RSMRST#).
                Voltage on BIOS pins?
                I'm not sure about RTC_RST#, could you measure it elsewhere? Also which schematics are you using?
                Hi pin 9 of Cn9 is rtc _rst 0v
                Im using schematic attached its close enough I think even though mine is Uma version.
                Attached Files

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                • piernov
                  Super Moderator
                  • Jan 2016
                  • 4435
                  • France

                  #9
                  Re: Hp 14 day11amb6e0 no Mainon

                  Voltage on both sides of R277? (just above CN9)
                  OpenBoardView — https://github.com/OpenBoardView/OpenBoardView

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                  • Bisketti
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 252
                    • Ireland

                    #10
                    Re: Hp 14 day11amb6e0 no Mainon

                    Originally posted by piernov
                    Voltage on both sides of R277? (just above CN9)
                    2.6v one side and 0v on other side

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                    • piernov
                      Super Moderator
                      • Jan 2016
                      • 4435
                      • France

                      #11
                      Re: Hp 14 day11amb6e0 no Mainon

                      Resitance to ground of RTC_RST#?
                      Voltage on pin 2 of Q19?
                      OpenBoardView — https://github.com/OpenBoardView/OpenBoardView

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                      • Bisketti
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 252
                        • Ireland

                        #12
                        Re: Hp 14 day11amb6e0 no Mainon

                        53ohm and pin 2 of q19 0v

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                        • piernov
                          Super Moderator
                          • Jan 2016
                          • 4435
                          • France

                          #13
                          Re: Hp 14 day11amb6e0 no Mainon

                          53ohm is way too low, RTC_RST# is partially shorted to ground.
                          Try removing Q19 and C367 and see if the resistance goes up. If it does not, the PCH (on the CPU package) is most likely dead.
                          OpenBoardView — https://github.com/OpenBoardView/OpenBoardView

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                          • Bisketti
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 252
                            • Ireland

                            #14
                            Re: Hp 14 day11amb6e0 no Mainon

                            Originally posted by piernov
                            53ohm is way too low, RTC_RST# is partially shorted to ground.
                            Try removing Q19 and C367 and see if the resistance goes up. If it does not, the PCH (on the CPU package) is most likely dead.
                            C367 was leaky alright I removed it and the voltage came back up. its switching on now just need to check if everything else is ok.

                            Your help is much appreciated.

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                            • souravbi33
                              New Member
                              • Jan 2017
                              • 6
                              • India

                              #15
                              Re: Hp 14 day11amb6e0 no Mainon

                              Have u repaired that board successfully .pls share .I have
                              same bord with same condition .

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                              • Lythius
                                New Member
                                • Aug 2014
                                • 3
                                • Italia

                                #16
                                Re: Hp 14 day11amb6e0 no Mainon

                                Hello I have the same problem. The Board is dead!
                                This is the CN9 Condition:
                                CN9
                                Pin 1 =0v
                                Pin 2 =0v
                                Pin 3 =0v
                                Pin 4 =0v
                                Pin 5=0v
                                Pin 6=0v
                                Pin 7=0v
                                Pin 9=2.9v
                                Pin 11=0v
                                Pin 13=0v
                                Pin 15=0v

                                Please Help Me

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                                • piernov
                                  Super Moderator
                                  • Jan 2016
                                  • 4435
                                  • France

                                  #17
                                  Re: Hp 14 day11amb6e0 no Mainon

                                  Open a new thread for a different problem. You are most likely missing the main power rail 19V.
                                  OpenBoardView — https://github.com/OpenBoardView/OpenBoardView

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