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  • withalligators
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    Gateway (shudder) NV59C63u charges battery, blue LED when powered, then shuts down

    Hey guys. This one has me stumped. It's a gateway NV59C63U, looks to be a rebranded Acer. When I got it, if you pressed the power button, the blue LED would light up, but that was it. The fan spins, but no screen illumination, nothing. After a few seconds, it would turn itself off, then back on again and the fan would spin, but everything else would be the same and it wouldn't shut itself off. The ram slot was damaged, so I replaced the motherboard with a supposedly new one off ebay. Same part number.
    Put it all together, but instead of using the i3-330M that was in there, I put in an i3-350M that I already had. Artic Silver 5, etc, put it all back together, with some DDR3 that I had from another Gateway fix (which had the exact same problem, that was fixed with a MB swap).

    SAME PROBLEM.

    So, I tested it with the original CPU (the 330m) and a different set of DDR3. Still, the exact same problem as with the original motherboard. So, here's what I'm thinking:

    1) Something to do with the power switch board. It has this weird little daughter board coming off of it that just sits there. It is positioned near one of the hinges, so I wonder if it controls the "sleep when lid is closed" function. Though, is that BIOS or OS driven? The thing has no HDD and thus no OS. Nevertheless, it's a 4 dollar experiment if you guys think it's worth it.

    2) Bad CPU. To me, the chances of having 2 bad CPUs are lottery winning. However, neither have been tested in other machines. The 350M I pulled from a garbage Dell (is there any other kind?)

    3) Bad motherboard. The thing does look new. But this sure seems like a MB problem to me.

    4) Incompatible RAM. This should post beep if it's the problem, right? And at least get to BIOS, right? The original RAM it came with is:
    Elpida 2GB 2RX8 PC3 10600S-9-10-FT
    The RAM I've tested it, to no avail, are:
    Samsung 2GB 2Rx8 PC3-8500S-07-10-F2 (from an earlier Gateway with a C2D in it but DDR3)
    and
    Micron 2 GB 1RX8 PC3-12800S-11-11-B2 (From an Ivy Bridge Dell machine)
    I've tried 1 stick and 2 sticks in either slot, and it makes no difference. Do you think this machine requires 10600 ram?
    EDIT - Crucial lists this as being compatible with 12800 ram.

    I also don't see a BIOS beep speaker anywhere, so if this thing is beeping, I might not hear it.

    What do you guys think?

    Cheers,
    Alex
    Last edited by withalligators; 07-01-2014, 06:14 PM.
  • dj_ricoh
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    #2
    Re: Gateway (shudder) NV59C63u charges battery, blue LED when powered, then shuts dow

    does it power on if you keep the board naked on the table?
    board ram fan and power to it? ofc to external vga screen
    Just cook it! It's already broken.

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    • withalligators
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      #3
      Re: Gateway (shudder) NV59C63u charges battery, blue LED when powered, then shuts dow

      Thanks for the reply.

      No, I tried that. Unfortunately, the power on switch is on a little daughter board connected by a 10 strand ribbon cable, which in turn has another daughter board (that does who knows what) connected by a 4 strand ribbon cable. So, unlike other laptops I've messed with that just have a single 2 wire button to turn it on, I'm unsure of what this does, and how I could jump it.
      I get no signal to an external monitor with the laptop monitor cable either connected or disconnected.

      Question about that, wouldn't a laptop need an OS to boot into before it would switch over to an external?

      So, what do you think? Bad mobo? CPU? power switch module?

      Cheers,
      Alex

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      • dj_ricoh
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        #4
        Re: Gateway (shudder) NV59C63u charges battery, blue LED when powered, then shuts dow

        can post pictures of both sides?
        Just cook it! It's already broken.

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        • withalligators
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          #5
          Re: Gateway (shudder) NV59C63u charges battery, blue LED when powered, then shuts dow

          Top

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          • dj_ricoh
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            #6
            Re: Gateway (shudder) NV59C63u charges battery, blue LED when powered, then shuts dow

            did you bought the board used untested or spare?
            Just cook it! It's already broken.

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            • withalligators
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              #7
              Re: Gateway (shudder) NV59C63u charges battery, blue LED when powered, then shuts dow

              Board was sold as NEW
              It seems new as well. No wear at all in any of the USB, HDMI, or other ports
              Last edited by withalligators; 07-02-2014, 01:36 PM.

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              • dj_ricoh
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                #8
                Re: Gateway (shudder) NV59C63u charges battery, blue LED when powered, then shuts dow

                :O fk me
                Just cook it! It's already broken.

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                • dj_ricoh
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                  #9
                  Re: Gateway (shudder) NV59C63u charges battery, blue LED when powered, then shuts dow

                  start the board without CPU.
                  in the circle I thing that's the power cable?
                  if its say Jpower or something like that? just short those pins to power.
                  Attached Files
                  Just cook it! It's already broken.

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                  • withalligators
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                    #10
                    Re: Gateway (shudder) NV59C63u charges battery, blue LED when powered, then shuts dow

                    No, that's one of the speaker connections. The power switch module is ten pins here.
                    Attached Files

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                    • dj_ricoh
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                      #11
                      Re: Gateway (shudder) NV59C63u charges battery, blue LED when powered, then shuts dow

                      ok.
                      sry!
                      try to start the board without CPU!
                      Just cook it! It's already broken.

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                      • withalligators
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                        #12
                        Re: Gateway (shudder) NV59C63u charges battery, blue LED when powered, then shuts dow

                        I just tried. Similar symptoms, but it turns on and off much more rapidly. Ran spins, LED turns on and off.

                        Thanks for responding so quickly and being helpful, by the way. I appreciate it.

                        Also, just tested the PS brick with another PC that uses the same one. Works fine, so it's not that.
                        Last edited by withalligators; 07-02-2014, 02:03 PM.

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                        • dj_ricoh
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                          #13
                          Re: Gateway (shudder) NV59C63u charges battery, blue LED when powered, then shuts dow

                          I don`t understand what`s going on here!
                          on page 32 in the schematic
                          its the power button right?!?!? that its on the additional board?
                          can you post a pic?
                          Just cook it! It's already broken.

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                          • withalligators
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                            #14
                            Re: Gateway (shudder) NV59C63u charges battery, blue LED when powered, then shuts dow

                            This is a better pic than I can give you. See the big ten pin ribbon leaving the picture. That is going to the motherboard.

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                            • dj_ricoh
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                              #15
                              Re: Gateway (shudder) NV59C63u charges battery, blue LED when powered, then shuts dow

                              find the 3.3 v and try to power it up with a tweezer.
                              I don't think it will work but you can try
                              one side to ground one side(one short) to 3.3v
                              or find the one that its ground (witch pin is)
                              Just cook it! It's already broken.

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                              • dj_ricoh
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                                #16
                                Re: Gateway (shudder) NV59C63u charges battery, blue LED when powered, then shuts dow

                                or you can try to see if the click(power button) its broken.
                                continuity check
                                Just cook it! It's already broken.

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                                • withalligators
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                                  Re: Gateway (shudder) NV59C63u charges battery, blue LED when powered, then shuts dow

                                  Based on the schematic, I tried jumping pins 10 and 7 with both tweezers and a resistor. It didn't do anything.

                                  Which pins should I be using to test continuity?
                                  Last edited by withalligators; 07-02-2014, 02:49 PM.

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                                  • dj_ricoh
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Gateway (shudder) NV59C63u charges battery, blue LED when powered, then shuts dow

                                    on power button?
                                    ammmm you need to find those don't beep and you need to hold and press the button
                                    if you press and it beeps and stop after release its ok. but if they all beep with each other its bad but I start to think that you started the nb with PW button so its not .
                                    what V do you got on power button? before and after pressing .

                                    does it go to 0?
                                    Just cook it! It's already broken.

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                                    • withalligators
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Gateway (shudder) NV59C63u charges battery, blue LED when powered, then shuts dow

                                      continuity test from pin 9 to the arrow on the pin of the ob/off button beeps and also jumps the computer on (not functioning though)

                                      Same if I jump pin 9 and 10

                                      testing other pins causes the LED to blink in weird ways but I don't want to break anything.

                                      switch is 3.19V on it whether on or off

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                                      • dj_ricoh
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Gateway (shudder) NV59C63u charges battery, blue LED when powered, then shuts dow

                                        I was hoping to understand but no I don`t

                                        1 - -3
                                        --0--
                                        2 - -4

                                        the click!
                                        where do you got voltage?
                                        where you don't have continuity and where you got ,
                                        do you got after pressing?
                                        Last edited by dj_ricoh; 07-03-2014, 01:15 AM.
                                        Just cook it! It's already broken.

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