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  • tomodachi
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Apr 2012
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    • Turkey

    #1

    SOny MBX-216 3.3V lost

    No any short, liquid spill or drop. This unit generates 3.3V (on pwr button) but when power button pressed it goes and to recover it I have to keep it unplugged for a while.
    EC bios flashed but no change, checked all mosfets and capacitors to the ground, can't find any short or open please give me some suggestions.
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  • tomodachi
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    • Apr 2012
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    #2
    Re: SOny MBX-216 3.3V lost

    any suggestions ?

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    • tomodachi
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Apr 2012
      • 602
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      #3
      Re: SOny MBX-216 3.3V lost

      some assistance please

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      • learnix
        Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 23
        • malaysia

        #4
        Re: SOny MBX-216 3.3V lost

        please drill down further , are you facing this when battery is connected ? or you are testing with only power adapter ?

        have you tried using only battery or power adapter to identify the behavior ?

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        • lord
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          • May 2011
          • 319
          • Croatia

          #5
          Re: SOny MBX-216 3.3V lost

          What do you have on pin 23 on the WPC775L after you press the power button?
          Do you have voltage on the power button?

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          • atsio
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Oct 2013
            • 819
            • Greece

            #6
            Re: SOny MBX-216 3.3V lost

            First check resistance to ground on all coils. What are the voltages on pins 123, 96, 25, 26, 27, 108, 93, 23, 19 and 11 of U18?
            The best way to check voltage strength in situations like this is with an oscilloscope due to poor sampling rate of DMM.

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            • whaldsz
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Apr 2013
              • 395
              • Philippines

              #7
              Re: SOny MBX-216 3.3V lost

              what do you get at pin 20, pin 15 and pin 123 of SIO before and after pressing the power button?

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              • tomodachi
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                • Apr 2012
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                • Turkey

                #8
                Re: SOny MBX-216 3.3V lost

                Originally posted by learnix
                please drill down further , are you facing this when battery is connected ? or you are testing with only power adapter ?

                have you tried using only battery or power adapter to identify the behavior ?
                With or without battery issue is same. I m using a lab type power supply.
                when I connect psu to motherboard I read 0.01 ampers then I press power button and amper indicator drops to zero and 3.3V gets lost from power button.

                Originally posted by lord
                What do you have on pin 23 on the WPC775L after you press the power button?
                Do you have voltage on the power button?
                Sorry I can't measure those pins because daughter board blocks it when plugged. but there is 3.3V at power button before pressed. when pressed it goes to 0.
                See; Without daughter board

                with daughter board


                Originally posted by atsio
                First check resistance to ground on all coils. What are the voltages on pins 123, 96, 25, 26, 27, 108, 93, 23, 19 and 11 of U18?
                The best way to check voltage strength in situations like this is with an oscilloscope due to poor sampling rate of DMM.
                there is no short in all coils, I m pretty sure about that. and as I said above I can't measure voltages of SIO

                Originally posted by whaldsz
                what do you get at pin 20, pin 15 and pin 123 of SIO before and after pressing the power button?

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                • atsio
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 819
                  • Greece

                  #9
                  Re: SOny MBX-216 3.3V lost

                  You can check all the signals on other smt components on the board. I.E. PM_SLP_S3# on R318 and D19, SUSON on PQ17, PR119, pin 3 of U56, etc.
                  Just follow the schematic.

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                  • con55
                    New Member
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 2
                    • Greece

                    #10
                    Re: SOny MBX-216 3.3V lost

                    Originally posted by atsio
                    First check resistance to ground on all coils. What are the voltages on pins 123, 96, 25, 26, 27, 108, 93, 23, 19 and 11 of U18?
                    The best way to check voltage strength in situations like this is with an oscilloscope due to poor sampling rate of DMM.
                    Hello

                    What is a good measure from the coil to ground? and when do i know when there is a short from the coil to ground?

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                    • sebuncle
                      Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 46
                      • France

                      #11
                      Re: SOny MBX-216 3.3V lost

                      Hi
                      i have similar problem do you solved the problem ?
                      JOVY RE7500

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                      • mahmoodjavan
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                        • Mar 2018
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                        • iran

                        #12
                        Re: SOny MBX-216 3.3V lost

                        Originally posted by tomodachi
                        no any short, liquid spill or drop. This unit generates 3.3v (on pwr button) but when power button pressed it goes and to recover it i have to keep it unplugged for a while.
                        Ec bios flashed but no change, checked all mosfets and capacitors to the ground, can't find any short or open please give me some suggestions.
                        bios
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