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  • lezsimply
    The Wanderer
    • Jan 2013
    • 645
    • Philippines

    #1

    Acer Aspire 4745g power problem

    Good day to everyone. I've got an acer aspire 4745g laptop which turns on then off again in just under 1 sec. When I press the power button the power led blink once then off and there is no sign of life. I need to unplug the power adapter to make the power led light again. I've tested the adapter and its ok. Power jack and its wire are ok because voltage are present on the motherboard.

    Motherboard receives 19.5v. Are there any areas I need to check regarding power. I also checked the motherboard for burnt components and I see none. I also got the schematic diagram for its board. Hope someone helps. thanks!
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  • fddizon
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Sep 2011
    • 555
    • Philippines

    #2
    Re: Acer Aspire 4745g power problem

    check for 5v 3.3v alw

    saw the schematic, check PL15 5V, PL16 3V
    Last edited by fddizon; 08-10-2013, 01:34 AM.

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    • lezsimply
      The Wanderer
      • Jan 2013
      • 645
      • Philippines

      #3
      Re: Acer Aspire 4745g power problem

      thanks for the reply. checked 5v on RT8206B pin no.14 (en1) OK and 3.3v on pin no.27 (en2) OK. 5v on PL15 is 5.14v and 3v on PL16 is 3.29v. Is this ok? I also measured sw1 3.3v when pressed becomes 0.5v.

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      • dj_ricoh
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jan 2013
        • 2073
        • uk

        #4
        Re: Acer Aspire 4745g power problem

        check pq63,64,65 and 66
        Just cook it! It's already broken.

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        • lezsimply
          The Wanderer
          • Jan 2013
          • 645
          • Philippines

          #5
          Re: Acer Aspire 4745g power problem

          thanks again. pq63 and pq64 5.18v is present, pq 65 and pq66 3.38v is also present. where else do I need to check?

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          • whaldsz
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Apr 2013
            • 395
            • Philippines

            #6
            Re: Acer Aspire 4745g power problem

            Voltage on PL11, PL12, PL9, PL17, PL14, PL7, PL13?

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            • dj_ricoh
              Badcaps Legend
              • Jan 2013
              • 2073
              • uk

              #7
              Re: Acer Aspire 4745g power problem

              check V on U40 ( W25Q32BVSSIG )
              Just cook it! It's already broken.

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              • lezsimply
                The Wanderer
                • Jan 2013
                • 645
                • Philippines

                #8
                Re: Acer Aspire 4745g power problem

                good day, @ whaldsz all the components you have mention pl7 ,pl9, pl11 ,pl12, pl13, pl14 and pl17 have 0v reading. Is that bad? thanks

                @ dj 0v on pin no 8 on u40. thanks
                Last edited by lezsimply; 08-11-2013, 01:26 AM.

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                • whaldsz
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 395
                  • Philippines

                  #9
                  Re: Acer Aspire 4745g power problem

                  Then check the resistance to ground of those coils and mosfets too.

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                  • dj_ricoh
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 2073
                    • uk

                    #10
                    Re: Acer Aspire 4745g power problem

                    Originally posted by lezsimply
                    good day, @ whaldsz all the components you have mention pl7 ,pl9, pl11 ,pl12, pl13, pl14 and pl17 have 0v reading. Is that bad? thanks

                    @ dj 0v on pin no 8 on u40. thanks
                    pin 8 on U40 its VDD and it shows +3V .
                    did you check with power on or off?
                    do you have tools to remove it? atleast a soldering iron.
                    Just cook it! It's already broken.

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                    • lezsimply
                      The Wanderer
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 645
                      • Philippines

                      #11
                      Re: Acer Aspire 4745g power problem

                      ok sir whaldsz Im on it.

                      @ sir dj, I dont have the chance to measure u40 with power because it won't turn on. Yes I do have the tools to remove it. Is u40 the bios chip?

                      thanks again to both of you!

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                      • dj_ricoh
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 2073
                        • uk

                        #12
                        Re: Acer Aspire 4745g power problem

                        Yes thats bios chip. remove it and see if power its restore.
                        without bios it will not Power up but you can see if power led its stable and the battery its charging.
                        Just cook it! It's already broken.

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                        • whaldsz
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 395
                          • Philippines

                          #13
                          Re: Acer Aspire 4745g power problem

                          Originally posted by dj_ricoh
                          Yes thats bios chip. remove it and see if power its restore.
                          without bios it will not Power up but you can see if power led its stable and the battery its charging.
                          @dj or you mean U29 (SPI Flash)? pin 8 of U40 comes from +3V (controlled by MAIND) and would not turn on unless power button is pressed.
                          Last edited by whaldsz; 08-11-2013, 02:12 AM.

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                          • dj_ricoh
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 2073
                            • uk

                            #14
                            Re: Acer Aspire 4745g power problem

                            go on page 44 and try to find some V like the P channel fets and that isl.
                            can you reflow the board? did you try?
                            Just cook it! It's already broken.

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                            • lezsimply
                              The Wanderer
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 645
                              • Philippines

                              #15
                              Re: Acer Aspire 4745g power problem

                              @whaldsz, the resistance to ground of all mentioned components are ok, low resistance. u29 pin no.8 has 3.38v reading

                              @ dj, haven't done any reflows on the board but I do have a hotair station just incase.

                              I've been reading a lot of forums regarding this laptop and the usual problem involves the gpu. I hope that is not case. thanks again.

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                              • dj_ricoh
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 2073
                                • uk

                                #16
                                Re: Acer Aspire 4745g power problem

                                you need to reflow but make a bottom heater to not just from top.
                                or you can do from top ( a light reflow) just to see if anything change.
                                Just cook it! It's already broken.

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                                • lezsimply
                                  The Wanderer
                                  • Jan 2013
                                  • 645
                                  • Philippines

                                  #17
                                  Re: Acer Aspire 4745g power problem

                                  Before I reflow anything, I'll be redoing every test on all components just to make sure that I haven't overlooked any readings.

                                  This is what I got on u29 pins (ISL88731A)

                                  pin 11 (vddsmb) = 3.3v
                                  pin 26 (vcc) = 5.18v
                                  pin 22 (dcin) =18.87v
                                  pin 02 (acin) = 4.02v

                                  are these voltages relevant to my problem? Thanks again!

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                                  • whaldsz
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Apr 2013
                                    • 395
                                    • Philippines

                                    #18
                                    Re: Acer Aspire 4745g power problem

                                    Originally posted by lezsimply
                                    @whaldsz, the resistance to ground of all mentioned components are ok, low resistance. u29 pin no.8 has 3.38v reading

                                    @ dj, haven't done any reflows on the board but I do have a hotair station just incase.

                                    I've been reading a lot of forums regarding this laptop and the usual problem involves the gpu. I hope that is not case. thanks again.
                                    What is the lowest resistance did you measure?

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                                    • lezsimply
                                      The Wanderer
                                      • Jan 2013
                                      • 645
                                      • Philippines

                                      #19
                                      Re: Acer Aspire 4745g power problem

                                      13.9ohm on PL7 why?

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                                      • whaldsz
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Apr 2013
                                        • 395
                                        • Philippines

                                        #20
                                        Re: Acer Aspire 4745g power problem

                                        Originally posted by lezsimply
                                        Before I reflow anything, I'll be redoing every test on all components just to make sure that I haven't overlooked any readings.

                                        This is what I got on u29 pins (ISL88731A)

                                        pin 11 (vddsmb) = 3.3v
                                        pin 26 (vcc) = 5.18v
                                        pin 22 (dcin) =18.87v
                                        pin 02 (acin) = 4.02v

                                        are these voltages relevant to my problem? Thanks again!
                                        i think not. you mentioned in your post #4 that you already have 3.3V and 5V.

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