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  • mangkook
    Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 13
    • Malaysia

    #1

    Toshiba Satellite LED screen no backlight

    Hi guys

    I have a problem with Toshiba Satellite L500 led / lcd no backlight problem

    the chronology is like this:

    1. Toshiba Satellite L500, busted LCD, Still have backlight. Only parts of it cracked.

    2. Order LCD screen from online, part no: LP156WH1

    3. problem with stock lead to replacement with compatible LED screen part no: LP156WH4

    4. assembled the LED screen (no inverter obviously) > boot, blank no backlight. image is visible but very faint

    5. tested with old LCD + original inverter > boot, also blank no backlight (wierd, used to be OK). image is visible but very faint.

    6. tested the vga to external monitor, OK.

    Now I've searched the internet and found suggestions that maybe the fuse controlling the power is busted.

    Is there anyone with the same experience? please help

    1. can it be that the fuse that control the power is busted?

    2. Can I fix it?

    3. if answer to both question 1&2 is YES, where can I locate this fuse and how to fix it.

    if I should post some attachment pic, which part should I capture?
    Last edited by mangkook; 07-25-2013, 03:28 PM. Reason: update title
  • rievax_60
    Badcaps Veteran
    • May 2012
    • 897
    • australia

    #2
    Re: Toshiba Satellite LED screen no backlight

    The fuse looks like a surface mount resistor, sometimes white or green or black coloured I think and usually marked with a single letter like a "P" to indicate the current rating.
    It will feed the 19v adapter supply to a number of adjacent pins on the mainboard connector tied together.
    Sometimes when a wrong LVDS cable is used, the control lines to the backlight circuit can be damaged. These control lines usually come from the keyboard controller IC.

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    • mangkook
      Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 13
      • Malaysia

      #3
      Re: Toshiba Satellite LED screen no backlight

      thanks for the quick reply

      so I should find this fuse on the motherboard? I already took out the motherboard and still trying to find it using magnifier.

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      • rievax_60
        Badcaps Veteran
        • May 2012
        • 897
        • australia

        #4
        Re: Toshiba Satellite LED screen no backlight

        Originally posted by mangkook
        thanks for the quick reply

        so I should find this fuse on the motherboard? I already took out the motherboard and still trying to find it using magnifier.
        Thats right. Often when I dont have a schematic, I look for pins on the mainboard LVDS connector that are tied together and try to trace where the track goes to. When pins are tied together, it is because they are for power rails or ground connections.

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        • mangkook
          Member
          • Jul 2013
          • 13
          • Malaysia

          #5
          Re: Toshiba Satellite LED screen no backlight

          I wonder if the schematic : https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...7&d=1373766252 , from older thread: https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=30076

          can be any use?

          I'll try to take pic tomorrow. its already too late here in my country and I dont have any camera with me apart from my old phone camera.



          update with phone camera, focus on JLVDS part.
          Last edited by mangkook; 07-25-2013, 05:09 PM. Reason: add attachment

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          • spidey
            climbs
            • Dec 2012
            • 644
            • Cyprus

            #6
            Re: Toshiba Satellite LED screen no backlight

            find the schematic, check lvds circuit. find Vin(18-19v), on/off(+3v) and brightness(150-200mv to 2-3v). Most probably you dont have vin or on/off signal. trace back this signals and fix the fault.

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            • mangkook
              Member
              • Jul 2013
              • 13
              • Malaysia

              #7
              Re: Toshiba Satellite LED screen no backlight

              the schematic found here: https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...7&d=1373766252

              are quite similar, its LA-4982P while my board is LA-4981P. perhaps just minor change?

              can I use this as reference? I'm very new in this. dont even understand what exactly I'm looking for.

              I found many VIN in these pdf schematic but can't decide if they're connected to LVDS.

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              • alihomee
                Badcaps Legend
                • Dec 2012
                • 1574
                • malaysia

                #8
                Re: Toshiba Satellite LED screen no backlight

                you need to test the voltages on inverter one is 18v and other is 3v to turn on the inverter if not present then chech on lcd connector on mother board

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                • spidey
                  climbs
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 644
                  • Cyprus

                  #9
                  Re: Toshiba Satellite LED screen no backlight

                  they are nearly the same, i have both of them. you can use the schematic.Page 18 of schematic, check for +LCD_INV and, BKOFF#.

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                  • spidey
                    climbs
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 644
                    • Cyprus

                    #10
                    Re: Toshiba Satellite LED screen no backlight

                    if C677, C678,C392 are (or one of them is) not short, and L17 is good too then you should get +18-19v on +LCD_INV. So if BKOFF# is not +3v then it is EC problem. Anyway measure them all, and post back.
                    Last edited by spidey; 07-26-2013, 06:29 AM.

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                    • mangkook
                      Member
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 13
                      • Malaysia

                      #11
                      Re: Toshiba Satellite LED screen no backlight

                      thanks guys

                      I'm waiting fro my brother who's into electronics to come, for the meantime I'll try to crunch some of the info above and going to find multimeter and learn how to use them

                      I'll be back.

                      already spend 100 buck for the LED screen and I'm not going to let this thing die on me!

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                      • spidey
                        climbs
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 644
                        • Cyprus

                        #12
                        Re: Toshiba Satellite LED screen no backlight

                        dont worry, its just a back light. if cant fix the problem, anyway we can make it work.

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                        • speedypro
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 561
                          • United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Re: Toshiba Satellite LED screen no backlight

                          Same issue happened to me with my customer's Dell Inspiron M5030. Hope that shine some lights.
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                          • spidey
                            climbs
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 644
                            • Cyprus

                            #14
                            Re: Toshiba Satellite LED screen no backlight

                            for that one, you must open a new thread, with your measurements. Dell m5030 has a known issue, blown fuse near lcd con. on motherboard. check it.

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                            • mangkook
                              Member
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 13
                              • Malaysia

                              #15
                              Re: Toshiba Satellite LED screen no backlight

                              Ok guys, under my brother guidance,

                              I can confirm using multimeter that C677, C678,C392 are NOT short

                              I hope I read it right..


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                              • spleenharvester
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 902
                                • UK

                                #16
                                Re: Toshiba Satellite LED screen no backlight

                                Probably isn't this but look top-down into the LVDS connector. Are all the pins straight?

                                I had this on an L300, and it turned out that because I plugged the connector in at a slight angle, two pins had bent and ended up in the same part of the connector.
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                                • spidey
                                  climbs
                                  • Dec 2012
                                  • 644
                                  • Cyprus

                                  #17
                                  Re: Toshiba Satellite LED screen no backlight

                                  would be nice to see inverter side connector, with pin measurments.

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                                  • mangkook
                                    Member
                                    • Jul 2013
                                    • 13
                                    • Malaysia

                                    #18
                                    Re: Toshiba Satellite LED screen no backlight

                                    I hope the pic is suffice..


                                    screen shot on a pc

                                    I edit the pic to overlap to show the connector side according to the LVDS socket

                                    also, Ive checked the connector, all of it and cant find anything bend or something wierd.

                                    I post a few pic just to show you guys my current situation







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                                    • spidey
                                      climbs
                                      • Dec 2012
                                      • 644
                                      • Cyprus

                                      #19
                                      Re: Toshiba Satellite LED screen no backlight

                                      ok, you dont have an inverter. it is a led converter. so the problem is wrong connection. just make sure pins located correctly by chaecking led panels circuit schematic. it should work when you find and change.

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                                      • spleenharvester
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Mar 2010
                                        • 902
                                        • UK

                                        #20
                                        Re: Toshiba Satellite LED screen no backlight

                                        OP did you get round to taking some DMM measurements on that connector? That all the voltages are there etc?
                                        Last edited by spleenharvester; 07-26-2013, 01:32 PM.
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