Macbook A1989 - 820-00850-A Won't turn on - stuck at 5V/5mA

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  • mon2
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    #21
    Re: Macbook A1989 - 820-00850-A Won't turn on - stuck at 5V/5mA

    Leave at 5A. We want the shorted part to heat up.

    For safety, keep the voltage at 1v or even 0v8.

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    • martyjelen
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      #22
      Re: Macbook A1989 - 820-00850-A Won't turn on - stuck at 5V/5mA

      I didn't noticed anything heat up. There is still short.

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      • mon2
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        #23
        Re: Macbook A1989 - 820-00850-A Won't turn on - stuck at 5V/5mA

        When the power supply at 1v is applied, what is the current draw?

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        • martyjelen
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          #24
          Re: Macbook A1989 - 820-00850-A Won't turn on - stuck at 5V/5mA

          2 ampers

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          • mon2
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            #25
            Re: Macbook A1989 - 820-00850-A Won't turn on - stuck at 5V/5mA

            Confirm if the power supply is being current limited. If yes, increase this value to 5A and test again.

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            • martyjelen
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              #26
              Re: Macbook A1989 - 820-00850-A Won't turn on - stuck at 5V/5mA

              It's not. I set it to 5A. Still get only 2A.

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              • mon2
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                #27
                Re: Macbook A1989 - 820-00850-A Won't turn on - stuck at 5V/5mA

                Increase the voltage to 2 volts and test again. Monitor who is heating up.

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                • martyjelen
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                  #28
                  Re: Macbook A1989 - 820-00850-A Won't turn on - stuck at 5V/5mA

                  I found it. It's C6555 and C6556. They are very hot.

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                  • mon2
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                    #29
                    Re: Macbook A1989 - 820-00850-A Won't turn on - stuck at 5V/5mA

                    Excellent!! Flux and remove both of these parts.

                    Be sure the pads are not shorting and then check the resistance to ground again if F7000, pin #2.

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                    • martyjelen
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                      #30
                      Re: Macbook A1989 - 820-00850-A Won't turn on - stuck at 5V/5mA

                      I already removed C6555 and there is no short anymore. I can measure F7000, but I will do it on Monday. I must go out. I will reply on Monday.

                      Thanks again. You are very kind.

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                      • mon2
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                        #31
                        Re: Macbook A1989 - 820-00850-A Won't turn on - stuck at 5V/5mA

                        Excellent! Place back the removed fuse and test it all again.

                        Thanks to @Piernov for the clarity on how to test the short condition - initially to me, thought your CPU was shorted.

                        This is a good read as well:

                        https://logi.wiki/index.php/PPBus_G3H

                        Review the article on PPBus Shorts (@Piernov).

                        Will cross my fingers waiting for some good news on Monday.

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                        • martyjelen
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                          #32
                          Re: Macbook A1989 - 820-00850-A Won't turn on - stuck at 5V/5mA

                          Just to be sure, you mean place the fuse back, connect it to power supply trough USB-C and see If I get 20V?

                          Sorry for dumb questions, but I'm really a newbie. And I don't want to kill the board completely.
                          Last edited by martyjelen; 05-12-2023, 10:36 AM.

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                          • mon2
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                            #33
                            Re: Macbook A1989 - 820-00850-A Won't turn on - stuck at 5V/5mA

                            Yes. Remove all power to the board. Start with posting the resistance to ground of the F7000, pin #2 so we can be sure the short is gone. Then solder back the removed fuse and confirm the voltage of PPBUS_G3H.

                            Ideally, this was the only root cause and the unit should be repaired.

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                            • martyjelen
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                              #34
                              Re: Macbook A1989 - 820-00850-A Won't turn on - stuck at 5V/5mA

                              It's about 5MΩ.

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                              • mon2
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                                #35
                                Re: Macbook A1989 - 820-00850-A Won't turn on - stuck at 5V/5mA

                                Good resistance. Solder back the fuse and test again.

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                                • martyjelen
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                                  #36
                                  Re: Macbook A1989 - 820-00850-A Won't turn on - stuck at 5V/5mA

                                  Now I get 20V on all ports. You are the best! Thank you very much!!!

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                                  • martyjelen
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                                    #37
                                    Re: Macbook A1989 - 820-00850-A Won't turn on - stuck at 5V/5mA

                                    Sadly, when I put PCB back it still won't turn on. Maybe there is another problem.

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                                    • mon2
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                                      #38
                                      Re: Macbook A1989 - 820-00850-A Won't turn on - stuck at 5V/5mA

                                      What is the voltage and current draw? Is the current draw stable or cycling?

                                      What is the voltage to ground reading of PPBUS_G3H @ F7000 ?

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                                      • martyjelen
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                                        #39
                                        Re: Macbook A1989 - 820-00850-A Won't turn on - stuck at 5V/5mA

                                        20V / 0.436A - stable

                                        Voltage at F7000 PPBUS_G3H is 12.5V. I noticed that U7800 is hot.

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                                        • mon2
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                                          #40
                                          Re: Macbook A1989 - 820-00850-A Won't turn on - stuck at 5V/5mA

                                          What is the voltage to ground of ALL_SYS_PWRGD_R ?

                                          Perhaps try DFU.

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