Msi B550M PRO-VDH Identified Missing Components

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  • DynaxSC
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    Sure.

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  • Rabit
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    I ordered already 250mW they will be fine ?

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  • DynaxSC
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    4 means probably case 0402, as far as I remember in this case max. wattage is 0,125W. As this is 10kohms it does not play a role, as max. wattage lost on this resistor will be P = U x U / R, so 12x12/10000 = 0,0144 W, so a range lower than the standard wattage of 0402 resistor case.
    Last edited by DynaxSC; 03-25-2022, 04:36 AM.

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  • Rabit
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    Left and down 93ohm confirms

    last question about resistor 10kohm for NCT3933U what wattage use ?
    I see in schematic 1%4 this will be 250mW ?

    Thank you all for help
    Last edited by Rabit; 03-25-2022, 02:35 AM.

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  • DynaxSC
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    & Lisa Su, thanks for the schematics, one never knows when it can be needed.

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  • DynaxSC
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    The chip with the marking MK=7K is a Richtek RT9553B, its the U9 on page 60 of the schematics. Pin one of this chip is 12VN_CS_N_R signal, and it is connected in the schematics (only by the signal name) just below to R34 (93.1R 1%), so what you measure.



    So the the resistor just below the cap (on picture with the S83P) could be R34 and your missing cap is most probably C46 (10u 6.3V) as there is no other cap connected directly to pin 1 of U9 and the signal 12VN_CS_N_R is to be found only twice and only on page 60. The other resistor to the left and down is probably R33 / 93,1R1%. Pls measure this resistor to confirm.

    To confirm this 1000% it would be interesting, where the pad marked "2" of the cap is connected. I suspect it goes through the "north" going track to one of the pins of CHOKE1 which is most probably just aside to the 12V 8pin CPU power connector.

    BTW, the Richtek marking, only the two first letters are meaningful, "=" is always there, and the two final characters are only manufacturing date codes.
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  • Rabit
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    Resistor from first pin second chip show 93ohm on my multimeter on block diagram I find only one 11 pin chip that have resistor 0ohm + capacitor on first pin and no GND on pin 1-10 like this chip
    page 55 RT8125E
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  • Rabit
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    Checked on this chip what leg is connected to resistor pad and this lock like pin2 sense and in block diagram I see one with 10kohm 1% resistor this equal to my results from multimeter.


    I make close up oh chip connected to capacitor pad

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  • DynaxSC
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    Hi, I woud give it a try with the schematics. The chip near the missing cap is 99% a NCT3933U. There are 4 of them on page 57 in the schematics, called "Over Voltage Control IC". The marking in the datasheet meets the one on the good board. The other chip on your board will be the same, but different make.



    If there is a connection on the board between the cap and this chip, you might be able to deduct which cap this is on the schematics, also comparing the resistor values, which can be measured in circuit in most of the cases.

    If you attach a picture showing a slighly bigger area, I could have a look on this too. Also one pad of the cap goes somewhere to the "north", it would be helpful to check where it is connected to, eg to identify a part with marking/type, which can be found on the schematics easily.
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  • Rabit
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    MSI respond that they cannot provided any info , crappy company practices.
    My last solution is to visit Rusian hackers forum and buy board-view and schematic of this board that they steal from MSI.

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  • Rabit
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    Originally posted by Lisa Su
    I am pretty noob to the game so not sure if it's possible to identify these missing components from the schematic. I hope it helps.
    Sadly no if this was board-view, this will be different.

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  • Lisa Su
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    I am pretty noob to the game so not sure if it's possible to identify these missing components from the schematic. I hope it helps.
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  • Rabit
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    I cannot take it of board without risk that board will not be accepted after return.
    Max V on board can be 12V I go with random 16V capacitance I try my luck
    Previous owner manage to power this board without of this smd but he have reboots.

    Edit:
    First I try ask MSI support to provide me with values of this missing SMD, before I try my luck with random value

    Edit 2:
    Missing Capacitor looks like (X7R, X5R ceramics) light brown microfarads range.
    Last edited by Rabit; 03-23-2022, 11:18 AM.

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  • DynaxSC
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    It's a MLCC cap, but to measure its capacitance, you need to take if off the board.
    Also power the board, and look what voltage is standing on the cap, then use a cap with at least higher nominal voltage, but to go sure use the highest voltage you can find in this case and capacity available.
    Last edited by DynaxSC; 03-23-2022, 09:09 AM.

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  • Rabit
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    I bought open box motherboard to clearly see what is missing and later return.

    resistor show on multimeter 10kohm in circuit measurement

    second smd I believe is capacitor can anyone identified it ?

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  • Rabit
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    Msi B550M PRO-VDH Identified Missing Components

    Hi I get cheap boards to repair ,missing I assume 1 to 3 SMD and 2 pads
    Anyone know what SMD missing ?

    Right Down Corner next to screw hole

    Zoom

    Closer Zoom on PAD A I not see any additional connection I can assume dead end ?

    Closer Zoom on PAD B
    Last edited by Rabit; 03-18-2022, 04:04 PM.

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