RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

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  • Bozog
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2022
    • 125
    • UK

    #41
    Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

    Ah sorry, dunno why I thought it was an MSI card

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    • Goblin999
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2022
      • 79
      • Romania

      #42
      Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

      Originally posted by Bozog
      Ah sorry, dunno why I thought it was an MSI card
      No worries

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      • Bozog
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2022
        • 125
        • UK

        #43
        Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

        Then I guess if you're sure you are using the correct bios, the next logical step would be to try a new bios chip.

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        • Goblin999
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2022
          • 79
          • Romania

          #44
          Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

          Originally posted by Bozog
          Then I guess if you're sure you are using the correct bios, the next logical step would be to try a new bios chip.
          Tried also that . I don`t know what is wrong with the card really . I put it aside

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          • LupenWonse
            Member
            • Dec 2021
            • 19
            • Germany

            #45
            Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

            Here is my theory about this error, I may be very well wrong but I'll give it a go.
            Pin 1 of the BIOS is the enable signal. It is active low
            I am assuming that your shorting of the pins (1-5) is somehow grounding the pin 1 therefore the chip gets enabled. Therefore the card is able to boot. I am not sure of the model of your bios chip but maybe grounding pin 1 (short to pin 4) would have the same effect? Not sure

            If the above assumption is correct than it means that the Enable signal is somehow wrong.
            Enable signal is generated by the GPU, goes through 3.3v and also has a pull-up resistor.
            You already measured this resistor (R35) to be 1k. According to a schematic on a similar card this value should be 2.2k. I am not sure if this could be an issue. Do you see 3.3V on this resistor?
            If both resistance values are ok then it would be the GPU, or the GPU connection that is the problem.

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            • Bozog
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2022
              • 125
              • UK

              #46
              Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

              Originally posted by LupenWonse
              Here is my theory about this error, I may be very well wrong but I'll give it a go.
              Pin 1 of the BIOS is the enable signal. It is active low
              I am assuming that your shorting of the pins (1-5) is somehow grounding the pin 1 therefore the chip gets enabled. Therefore the card is able to boot. I am not sure of the model of your bios chip but maybe grounding pin 1 (short to pin 4) would have the same effect? Not sure

              If the above assumption is correct than it means that the Enable signal is somehow wrong.
              Enable signal is generated by the GPU, goes through 3.3v and also has a pull-up resistor.
              You already measured this resistor (R35) to be 1k. According to a schematic on a similar card this value should be 2.2k. I am not sure if this could be an issue. Do you see 3.3V on this resistor?
              If both resistance values are ok then it would be the GPU, or the GPU connection that is the problem.
              I see exactly what you are thinking, but I am pretty sure with SPI the chip enable signal has to be correctly timed, it is part of the protocol and to prevent spurious reads/writes, you cannot just randomly pull it low and read/write the entire chip.

              Of course I could be wrong, feel free to enlighten me

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              • Goblin999
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2022
                • 79
                • Romania

                #47
                Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

                Originally posted by LupenWonse
                Here is my theory about this error, I may be very well wrong but I'll give it a go.
                Pin 1 of the BIOS is the enable signal. It is active low
                I am assuming that your shorting of the pins (1-5) is somehow grounding the pin 1 therefore the chip gets enabled. Therefore the card is able to boot. I am not sure of the model of your bios chip but maybe grounding pin 1 (short to pin 4) would have the same effect? Not sure

                If the above assumption is correct than it means that the Enable signal is somehow wrong.
                Enable signal is generated by the GPU, goes through 3.3v and also has a pull-up resistor.
                You already measured this resistor (R35) to be 1k. According to a schematic on a similar card this value should be 2.2k. I am not sure if this could be an issue. Do you see 3.3V on this resistor?
                If both resistance values are ok then it would be the GPU, or the GPU connection that is the problem.

                I took a brake from it as it gotten me nowhere , but I will check it again later today

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                • Goblin999
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2022
                  • 79
                  • Romania

                  #48
                  Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

                  Originally posted by LupenWonse
                  Here is my theory about this error, I may be very well wrong but I'll give it a go.
                  Pin 1 of the BIOS is the enable signal. It is active low
                  I am assuming that your shorting of the pins (1-5) is somehow grounding the pin 1 therefore the chip gets enabled. Therefore the card is able to boot. I am not sure of the model of your bios chip but maybe grounding pin 1 (short to pin 4) would have the same effect? Not sure

                  If the above assumption is correct than it means that the Enable signal is somehow wrong.
                  Enable signal is generated by the GPU, goes through 3.3v and also has a pull-up resistor.
                  You already measured this resistor (R35) to be 1k. According to a schematic on a similar card this value should be 2.2k. I am not sure if this could be an issue. Do you see 3.3V on this resistor?
                  If both resistance values are ok then it would be the GPU, or the GPU connection that is the problem.


                  Also when booting after I short the pins (pin 1+ pin 5 or pin 8- has same effect) . it looks like this in HiveOS , but when starting to mine the GPU chip it gets pretty hot but I presume there is an error somehow on a sensor reading because the chip cannot go 511 degreees celsius
                  Attached Files

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                  • LupenWonse
                    Member
                    • Dec 2021
                    • 19
                    • Germany

                    #49
                    Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

                    Originally posted by Bozog
                    I see exactly what you are thinking, but I am pretty sure with SPI the chip enable signal has to be correctly timed, it is part of the protocol and to prevent spurious reads/writes, you cannot just randomly pull it low and read/write the entire chip.

                    Of course I could be wrong, feel free to enlighten me
                    Well I have absolutely no expertise in this area, this was just my train of thought. However it is a fact that when those pins are shorted this card boots somehow. I am just curious to understand what is happening.

                    Might be worthwhile to check with an oscilloscope what is happening on data pins with and without the short.

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                    • Goblin999
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2022
                      • 79
                      • Romania

                      #50
                      Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

                      Originally posted by LupenWonse
                      Well I have absolutely no expertise in this area, this was just my train of thought. However it is a fact that when those pins are shorted this card boots somehow. I am just curious to understand what is happening.

                      Might be worthwhile to check with an oscilloscope what is happening on data pins with and without the short.


                      Also tried the osciloscope on pin 1 of the bios chip and nothing happens (without bios being in short)

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