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    #21
    Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

    Well I don't know what to suggest, have you checked all the voltage rails and resistances? Could this be an issue with the pex_rst logic circuit?
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      #22
      Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

      I checked some voltages on some inductors and the display rail give 0,9v so I presume everything was good . I don`t know how to check the pex_rst logic circuit . I don`t know where it is or how it looks

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        #23
        Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

        On the back of the board near the pcie slot notch probably, look for U100 you should have 3v3 coming out (see the schematic I posted)

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          #24
          Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

          thats paperclip method for bad/bricked bios. u have bad bios. flash t and it will be ok


          i think this card have two bioses so it will put EN/CS pin to 0 on first bios, so this first bios will be not used and boots from second bios
          Last edited by ktmmotocross; 02-05-2022, 12:02 AM.

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            #25
            Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

            Originally posted by ktmmotocross View Post
            thats paperclip method for bad/bricked bios. u have bad bios. flash t and it will be ok


            i think this card have two bioses so it will put EN/CS pin to 0 on first bios, so this first bios will be not used and boots from second bios

            I tried flashing it like 3 times and I have the same problem all over again . Somebody told me that the BIOS chip may be bad , but I don`t think because it flashes the new BIoses . I could only find one BIOS chip on the pcb , don`t know if there is 2 because I have no bios switch either

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              #26
              Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

              Originally posted by Bozog View Post
              Well I don't know what to suggest, have you checked all the voltage rails and resistances? Could this be an issue with the pex_rst logic circuit?
              I have 3V on some pins on that U100 little part . I also measured BIOS chip voltages and I have 3v on 3 pins and on the pin number 1 I have 2,6v or something like that . Is that normal ?

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                #27
                Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

                You need to make sure the gpu is coming out of reset by checking for 3v3 on pin 4 U100, if you have that I would then try probing pin 1 on the bios chip with a scope again, to ascertain its being read. You should see some fast falling/rising edges, which maybe difficult to capture without using a single trigger.

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                  #28
                  Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

                  Originally posted by Bozog View Post
                  You need to make sure the gpu is coming out of reset by checking for 3v3 on pin 4 U100, if you have that I would then try probing pin 1 on the bios chip with a scope again, to ascertain its being read. You should see some fast falling/rising edges, which maybe difficult to capture without using a single trigger.


                  You mean to have 3,3V on this pin circled in red right ? Well , I have and also I have on both pins under him
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                    #29
                    Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

                    A friend told me that I should try a GPU chip reflow , but I am not so sure about that . Never done it and I don`t want to break something

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                      #30
                      Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

                      Originally posted by Goblin999 View Post
                      A friend told me that I should try a GPU chip reflow , but I am not so sure about that . Never done it and I don`t want to break something
                      Yeah don't do that unless you're certain that is what the issue is, and definitely don't do it with a heat gun.

                      I have circled pin 4 in red, looks like there is a handy place to test on my board.
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                        #31
                        Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

                        Originally posted by Bozog View Post
                        Yeah don't do that unless you're certain that is what the issue is, and definitely don't do it with a heat gun.

                        I have circled pin 4 in red, looks like there is a handy place to test on my board.

                        Thanks , I will get right away to measure it . Also you have the same card ? Can you provide me the stock BIOS ? I tried several bios versions and none of them worked - maybe it is a bios flash error ? (I write them in Hive OS - after I short the pins of the bios chip so it can boot) . Also after I boot the Hive sees the card and start mining but gives some strange error temp . I will attach a photo
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                          #32
                          Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

                          Originally posted by Bozog View Post
                          Yeah don't do that unless you're certain that is what the issue is, and definitely don't do it with a heat gun.

                          I have circled pin 4 in red, looks like there is a handy place to test on my board.


                          Measured the little spot you showed me because it`s the same as mine and I get 3,3v . Also tried again with the osciloscope on the pin 1 of the BIOS chip and nothing happens . When I put the osciliscope on the motherboard BIOS chip I can see some oscilations , but on the graphic card nothing . So I respume the GPU chip doesn`t communicate with the bios or something like that idk

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                            #33
                            Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

                            I think my card is an MSI RX480 4GB Armor, why does Hive say 470/480 is that normal, your card is a 580 no?

                            The correct bios will be on techpowerup, would need to see the label and the memory type to find the correct one.

                            I think the gpu bios is only read at startup so you'd probably need to set a single trigger on falling edge to capture it.

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                              #34
                              Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

                              Originally posted by Bozog View Post
                              I think my card is an MSI RX480 4GB Armor, why does Hive say 470/480 is that normal, your card is a 580 no?

                              The correct bios will be on techpowerup, would need to see the label and the memory type to find the correct one.

                              I think the gpu bios is only read at startup so you'd probably need to set a single trigger on falling edge to capture it.

                              Because of the short I do on the bios it shows that I think . Tried several bioses from that site based on the memory type (micron) . I also found on the gigabyte website bioses and that is the last one I used based on the label on the graphics card

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                                #35
                                Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

                                All of the bios on techpowerup for the 580 gaming x are either samsung or hynix memory, have you actually looked at the memory chips?

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                                  #36
                                  Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

                                  Originally posted by Bozog View Post
                                  All of the bios on techpowerup for the 580 gaming x are either samsung or hynix memory, have you actually looked at the memory chips?


                                  yes . it`s micron 100%

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                                    #37
                                    Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

                                    Have you tried one of the gaming x ones from techpowerup?

                                    https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/...I&model=RX+580

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                                      #38
                                      Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

                                      Originally posted by Bozog View Post
                                      Have you tried one of the gaming x ones from techpowerup?

                                      https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/...I&model=RX+580
                                      yes

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                                        #39
                                        Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

                                        Ooh I've found a micron one

                                        https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/204414/204414

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                                          #40
                                          Re: RX580 Gigabyte Gaming 8GB - Micron - Boots only if I do the BIOS short

                                          Originally posted by Bozog View Post
                                          It is not the right one . This is the right one - same as picture and also it has the original bios from Gigabyte (https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Ca...ev-10-11-12#kf) . But I don`t think it is the bios . I think it is a piece on the board some sensor or something I don`t know

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