RIFA Class Y Capacitor remedy

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  • presario425
    New Member
    • May 2020
    • 4
    • United States

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    RIFA Class Y Capacitor remedy

    Hi all!
    I have a piece of gear with a Power-one SPL130 power supply in it. On the primary side, there is a very tiny (about the size of your thumb nail) RIFA Class Y capacitor, 2.2 nF. I'm not too sure about the condition (whether or not it's cracking) but I do know that it's there.

    I'm aggregating information as to how I should remedy this. It hasn't exploded yet, but that's what I'm trying to avoid.

    I've never seen a RIFA class Y safety cap self destruct (or at least it hasn't been documented in the past). However, it's not worth the risk to leave it in there. It's different from the class X (across-the-line) capacitors in that it's line-to-ground. It's worth noting that the gear in question is encased in a metal chassis.

    I've heard in various videos and forum posts online that in most cases, these caps can just be omitted, but the context always seems to involve a Class X rather than a Class Y cap. If I just remove it for now, and temporarily leave nothing in its place with the understanding that I will be more prone to RFI (which isn't too much of an issue in this application), is that OK for the time being? Class Y caps are designed to fail open, so by removing it and therefore creating an open circuit, it should be fine and not pose a shock hazard, right? If I go this route, I will replace it with a suitable capacitor at a later date.

    Thanks for any input!
    Last edited by presario425; 05-19-2020, 06:54 PM. Reason: Clarified context
  • R_J
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jun 2012
    • 9535
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: RIFA Class Y Capacitor remedy

    Will this work? WYO222MCMBF0KR

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    • presario425
      New Member
      • May 2020
      • 4
      • United States

      #3
      Re: RIFA Class Y Capacitor remedy

      That is indeed a suitable replacement - thanks for the recommendation! However, I am unable to replace it at this time (and the lockdown definitely isn't helping that). What I'm wondering is if anyone knows if just desoldering that RIFA class Y will work for now, provided it doesn't pose a hazard of any kind.

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      • eccerr0r
        Solder Sloth
        • Nov 2012
        • 8701
        • USA

        #4
        Re: RIFA Class Y Capacitor remedy

        These are all noise suppressing capacitors and it may introduce interference to radio/tv devices which may cause unwanted behavior.

        The theory is that as a Y-class capacitor it should not fail short, and thus you don't have to worry about it else it's a recall...

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        • presario425
          New Member
          • May 2020
          • 4
          • United States

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          Re: RIFA Class Y Capacitor remedy

          Sorry about the delayed response, all, been a bit busy as of late. I appreciate all the advice, thanks!

          While it's true that Y caps shouldn't fail short, the same cannot be said about these RIFAs (I believe this one is a PME 271 Y) unfortunately. They tend to fail rather spectacularly due to the casing cracking and letting moisture in over the years. I also learned recently that these caps were not supposed to be yellow originally, they were actually clear. Why there wasn't a recall on these, I'm not sure - I guess these failures happened well after the cap's guaranteed useful life was over. Cheap, nasty plastic casing strikes again

          For now, I will just remove it and not worry about it, and should I experience any RFI problems, I will order a suitable Class Y replacement and install it. There are other Class Y capacitors surrounding it (which are not RIFAs, they are decent quality ceramic disc capacitors and therefore should not explode ) so I don't expect many issues anyway. Again, if I do notice any interference troubles, I will solder in a replacement, but for now I won't worry about it.
          Last edited by presario425; 06-02-2020, 07:38 AM.

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