I'm looking to use this motherboard for builds because of its potential to upgrade from a s754 Sempron 2600+ to a s939 Athlon 64 FX-57. What kind of caps does it use?
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http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/...is-760-gx.html
large caps look like United Chemi-con KZE. other caps dunno, prolly OST -
That's the K8-Upgrade 760GX mATX mb. I mean the M1689 ATX MB. Different chipset and form factor.,Comment
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http://www.ocworkbench.com/2004/asro...de-1689/g2.htm
looks like chemi con KZE and OST RLZ for the majors and definitely OST prolly RLP series for the 1000s. Typical asus crap.Comment
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Should I recap this as soon as I get it? I thought Chemi-con was good.Comment
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i used to think chemi-con were good, but after FatalOE posted saying that he had some green KZE chemi-cons which looked fine but tested bad, i am not sure at the moment. most of the KZE i have seen were brown though. i never seen one visibly fail. prolly they are ok.
anyway we have already seen that those OST RLZ will visibly fail. definitely recap those 5. personally if i was gonna recap those then i would also do the 4 chemi-cons near them in order to have all the majors being only rubycon or panasonic caps. then i would prolly leave the 1000uf osts for a while and see how it goes. i have a few asus boards with rubycon for the majors and 1000uf osts all over the place, still running great. If the comp started to get unstable i would recap all the 1000uf osts.
the funny thing is that it looks like all the majors in the CPU upgrade module are chemi-cons.
anyway it all depends on whats on your actual board not what we have seen in the review model. i started to buy boards from shops so i can check them out.
the thing is why not try to get a board with nice caps on it new. FatalOE posted about 29 Abit KV-80 systems he built and from those 19 were with all Rubycon caps and only 10 with Ruby's around the cpu but TMZ everywhere else. (i think TMZ are samsung crap).
so personally i would be checking abit boards in the shop to find one with all rubycon caps and get that one.Comment
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it's not Abit. It's ASRock which I think is Asus' cheap upgradeable division.Comment
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yes indeed Asrock is Asus's cheap division but what i was saying was maybe get an Abit instead since some of them have great caps.Comment
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But you can't upgrade from a s754 Sempron 2600+ to a s939 FX-57 on any Abit.Comment
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whats your need for the upgrade anyway?
no need to put a reason for editing your post, nobody gives a f**k, just get the post right soon cos editing permissions are lost after 10mins or so. (sorry sounding a bit harsh here but didnt mean to)Last edited by willawake; 05-02-2005, 01:41 PM.Comment
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"whats your need for the upgrade anyway?"
Say I'm building for a family. Teenage son gets interested in CAD. Finds that Sempron 2600+ is not satisfactory for that kind of proc-intensive work. He goes out and buys the 939upboard. Puts a FX in it. E. Z. Upgrade and much less than buying a new s939 motherboard.Comment
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Re: caps used in ASRock K8-Upgrade M1689?
Specifically ASRock is HSing Tech (PC-Chips) OEM for Asus.Originally posted by Chris1992
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Re: caps used in ASRock K8-Upgrade M1689?
Shure? Asrock = PC Chips? that would make me feel sick......Any way, i have a Asrock Dual sata 2 board, i haven`t recaped the minor OSt caps, as i haven`t had that mutch caps there. But i have already ordered them. On some particular places (some VRM units) i have already replaced a few 1000uf Ost caps. But the board is still going strong. I will probably upgrade the caps in the meory section, may be i will get som better OC woth my poor Corsair VS memory.Last edited by gonzo0815; 12-23-2006, 03:21 AM.Comment
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Re: caps used in ASRock K8-Upgrade M1689?
I read somewhere that Asus decided they needed to get into the low end market and did one of those corporate wheelie dealies with PcChips then *POOF* -> ASRock
(I wish I could find that article again!)
It's not too hard to see if you look at some of the PcChips and ASRock PCB layouts side by side. - I saw two on Newegg shortly after reading the article that were identical except for the chipset's heatsink. (This was mentioned by a couple people in the Newegg reviews as well.) - That pretty much confirmed it for me.
Lately I've noticed the PcChips boards are marketed one chipset behind the ASRock boards at any given place.. Hmmm.. So more people don't notice maybe???
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Re: caps used in ASRock K8-Upgrade M1689?
ASRock boards have typical Asus board signs - reversed capacitor polarity marking, the type of font used, the weird BIOS. Haven't found anything similar to PC Chips.Comment
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Re: caps used in ASRock K8-Upgrade M1689?
Me too, even VRM desing is far from the notorius 1 phase 3 coils desing from Pcchips & ECS and the whole layout was more like they got some starting points from Asus than PCchips. Any way, as Asrock is alway the only boardmaker, wich does make some unique & inovative upgrade solutions, i usually have not the choice in buying boards from other vendors. I have not accidentially bought an Asrock DS2. It was and probably is the only board with a fully featured AGP & PCI-e port.
As long as they do not put the more shoddy cap on (like they already have done on the Conroe X fire...), i have no problems with it at all. And even then, for me there is no problem in pulling badcaps from a new board, and putting in the best i can get. But i always agree, that i would not recomend Asrock boards to users, wich hail the warranty disclaimer or are seeking a bulletproof system. But then, they have to pay the price and should not complain about price. On the other side, i have hade severe trouble with very expensive Abit K8SLI, and there was no helpfull support too. So buying the expensive stuff is buy no means a insurance against troubles.Last edited by gonzo0815; 12-24-2006, 06:16 AM.Comment
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Re: caps used in ASRock K8-Upgrade M1689?
Hasn't the fact that a socket 939 Athlon 64 3000+ is less than $60 USD made this type of board irrelevent??? I mean that plug in module to add the 939 socket i doubt is free..Comment
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Re: caps used in ASRock K8-Upgrade M1689?
I would agree to that. You can`t save that mutch with the 754 soket today. But may be AMD will let this platform survive a little longer as low cost solution. Skt 939 i have some doubths that there will be some support for that long time. Any way, if the board isn`t already equiped with the skt939, this makes no mutch sence, as those upgrade cards are abouth 34€.Comment
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Re: caps used in ASRock K8-Upgrade M1689?
I use Hsing Tech and PcChips interchangably.
Usually that's not a problem but in this case I lost you.
- Also I didn't mean Asus took PcChips boards and slapped their name on it. I meant PcChips takes Asus designs for ASRock and slaps their name on it. - It may have been ECS when I saw the identical boards. That was back in July I think so,,, memory...
Hsing Tech is a MANUFACTURER that other companies outsource the physical 'building' of motherboards to. PcChips is part of the same company but is only a MoBo designer and distributer. Hsing Tech does the physical building only. In 1998 Hsing Tech took over ECS (hostile take over) and from what I can tell they eventually made PcChips a subsidiary of ECS. (Hsing Tech is also who took over Soyo.)
Hsing Tech manufactures PcChips boards to PcChips's order (engineer's design).
Hsing Tech manufactures ECS boards to ECS's order (engineer's design).
Hsing Tech manufactures ASRock boards to Asus's order (engineer's design).
Hsing Tech manufactures boards for LOTS of companies.
They do also things like video cards, modems, PCB for CD Drives, possibly MoBo PCB blanks....
Hsing Tech DELIBERATLY hides their existance because the companies they sell to don't want it known that their products are not manufactured 'in house'. They are going to use the silk screen for who ever they are building for.
Consumers hardly hear of Hsing Tech because they are manufacturing (only), only on an OEM basis for other companies, and they don't do retail..
.... But Hsing Tech is HUGE. HUGE. HUGE.
As of late 1998 they had 5 fabs in TW and China and the capacity (just motherboards) was reported as 1.5 million boards a month.
Of course the ASRock boards are going to 'look' like Asus because the 'blue prints' came from Asus engineers, but the assembly line they are built on may have had PcChips or ECS or ???? boards on it yesterday.
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Now my funny story...
~ It's all my fault. ~
That Hsing tech doesn't have a website...
This was before *I* realized how big a company it was. (1998/1999 sometime.)
I was culling boxes of returned Hsing Tech built boards (a dozen different makes) that were given to me free from a local shop (80-90% of them had no actual problems other than possibly the buyer couldn't read to set up jumpers...). Most had no model numbers on them, couldn't read the chipset numbers (heatsinks), and I'd gotten no manuals with them so I had to dig up all the CPU/Memory info based on the BIOS string.
In trying to find info on one of them I tripped over Hsing Tech's "new" corporate site. (It wasn't much on it yet.) - Well, I sent the CEO an email asking him why he didn't put up BIOS updates for the boards they manufacture on the site so consumers could find them all in one place. (Okay, so, in hindsight that was pretty dumb...)
I got a nice (snooty) email back (from the CEO!) telling me that they were manufacturing only and didn't do consumer customer support. If I wanted to discuss ordering at least 10,000 of something I should email him back.
A few days later the website went away never to return.
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Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Re: caps used in ASRock K8-Upgrade M1689?
PcChips started that when they offered boards with Slot 1 and Socket 370 both on the same board.Originally posted by gonzo0815
I am not saying ASRock boards are ~bad~.
(No worse than any other cheap board.)
I am saying the are NOT BUILT by Asus.
(Some people seem to think they are.)
.Mann-Made Global Warming.
- We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.
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Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
- Dr Seuss
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You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
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I know I've been a little scarce lately (like the last 2-3 years), but I'm still here and still doing my thing with fixing PSUs.
For today's considerations, I have a Seasonic B12 BC-550 [A551bcafh] 550 Watt ATX power supply for you (click on links for full size images).
https://www.badcaps.net/filedata/fetch?id=3591771
https://www.badcaps.net/filedata/fetch?id=3591772
It's a modern ATX unit with fixed (non-modular) cables and an 80-plus bronze certificate. Here's the label:
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Hello,
First, I am a complete noob with high voltage stuff. I'm learning, but I need help by someone looking over my shoulder.
I recently came into posession of a Heathkit IO-4205 5MHz Dual Trace Oscilloscope. The documentation is copyright 1978. I'm told it works.
I opened it up to check the caps before I applied power, and found the following black caps and wanted to know what they were. They are on the power supply board. I was able to read the name and model and came up with, "Nytronics 162J-1, 0.1uF, 20% tolerance, 2000VDC."
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Hello!
I have two projects on my work bench. One is a friends dead JBL Xtreme speaker with a blown voltage regulator and corresponding bulged and shorted cap. That cap has clear markings so I know what replacement I need for it.
The other project however is a whole different deal. It's a Zoom 9000 guitar effect from the 90th that has developed a devil hound howl when there is no input from the guitar. I'm guessing caps problem. So, since I don't really use this effect anymore I thought it would be a perfect project to learn on.
I have studied the board and... -
I have had good luck with asrock products but with that said I ordered a DeskMeet X300 to use up some other components I had laying around Ryzen 3600 GTX 1060. it comes with a 500w power supply built by CWT.
I thought CWT would use good components but no the primary cap was ChengX and the secondary had lots of chengx and JunFu caps. hope it lasts awhile. I do have a 450w SFX silverstone with teapos on the secondary I could replace it with. -
I'm trying to repair two old VCRs, they both have bad caps. One has leaky ones, the other would barely run until I subbed in some caps from another power supply I had laying around (though they are the wrong values). This vcr works for an hour or two, but then the power supply starts whining and the picture gets lines in it. I didn't replace all the secondary caps, so another voltage might still be problematic, or the values I used are too far off.
I've been on mouser and digikey but the options are a bit overwhelming. I just need some new ones that will work. They don't need to be top quality,...
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