WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

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  • testas86
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 140

    #41
    Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

    measurements from the transformer on the top left with the black line on it. everything was tested on 2k ohms

    black probe on pin 1, red on pin 2 - .872 ohms
    black probe on pin 1, red on pin 3 - 1. out of range
    black probe on pin 1, red on pin 4 - 1. out of range
    black probe on pin 1, red on pin 5 - 1. out of range
    black probe on pin 1, red on pin 6 - 1. out of range
    black probe on pin 1, red on pin 7 - 1. out of range
    black on pin 1, red on pin 8 - 1. out of range

    black probe on pin 2, red on pin 3 - 1. out of range
    black probe on pin 2, red on pin 4 - 1. out of range
    black probe on pin 2, red on pin 5 - 1. out of range
    black probe on pin 2, red on pin 6 - 1. out of range
    black probe on pin 2, red on pin 7 - 1. out of range
    black probe on pin 2, red on pin 8 - 1. out of range

    black probe on pin 3, red on pin 4 - .001 ohms
    black probe on pin 3, red on pin 5 - .001 ohms
    black probe on pin 3, red on pin 6 - .001 ohms
    black probe on pin 3, red on pin 7 - 1. out of range
    black probe on pin 3, red on pin 8 - 1. out of range

    black probe on pin 4, red on pin 5 - .001 ohms
    black probe on pin 4, red on pin 6 - .001 ohms
    black probe on pin 4, red on pin 7 - 1. out of range
    black probe on pin 4, red on pin 8 - 1. out of range


    black probe on pin 5, red on pin 6 - .001 ohms
    black probe on pin 5, red on pin 7 - 1. out of range


    black probe on pin 6, red on pin 7 - 1. out of range
    black probe on pin 6, red on pin 8 - 1. out of range


    black probe on pin 7, red on pin 8 - justs around from 1.121 to 1.580 ohms

    black probe on pin last-1, red on pin last - 1. out of range

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    • retiredcaps
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      • Apr 2010
      • 9271

      #42
      Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

      Originally posted by testas86
      measurements from the transformer on the top left with the black line on it. everything was tested on 2k ohms

      black probe on pin 1, red on pin 2 - .872 ohms
      black probe on pin 7, red on pin 8 - justs around from 1.121 to 1.580 ohms
      Hmm, without a spec sheet or another transformer to compare to, I'm not sure if the 2 readings above are correct or not.

      Do you have another monitor where you can do the CCFL test?
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      • testas86
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        • May 2010
        • 140

        #43
        Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

        now i was reading the other things that could be bad and i tested what i think is a fuse (F301) also circled on the attached picture.

        i tested it at 2k ohms and got a reading of .004
        i also tested it with 200 setting and got .8
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        • retiredcaps
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          #44
          Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

          I just realized that no one including myself asked if you can still see the video/image if you shine a flashlight on the screen? Please answer.
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          • testas86
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            • May 2010
            • 140

            #45
            Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

            would any monitor work or does it have to be the same one? cus i have a 17 inch hp monitor just saying around

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            • testas86
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              • May 2010
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              #46
              Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

              also there is another transformer on the board as well should i get the readings from that one as well?

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              • retiredcaps
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                • Apr 2010
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                #47
                Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                Originally posted by testas86
                would any monitor work or does it have to be the same one? cus i have a 17 inch hp monitor just saying around
                It is best to get the same because I'm not sure how a 17 inch length CCFL tube will react in a 22 inch monitor. If the connector, voltage, and current are the same, it shouldn't be a problem.
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                • retiredcaps
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                  • Apr 2010
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                  #48
                  Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                  Originally posted by testas86
                  also there is another transformer on the board as well should i get the readings from that one as well?
                  It is not the same transformer on the board. The one you measured is the transformer that drives the CCFLs.

                  Most inverter boards that I have seen have at least 2 transformers driving the CCFLs. Yours only has the 1.
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                  • retiredcaps
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                    #49
                    Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                    What is the part number of that 4 legged chip next to c66 on the backside?
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                    • testas86
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                      • May 2010
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                      #50
                      Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                      nikos
                      p2804nd5g
                      un45j0a84

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                      • retiredcaps
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                        #51
                        Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                        Originally posted by testas86
                        p2804nd5g
                        Okay, we are going to make sure this FET isn't shorted. Set your mastech to 200 ohms (two hundred).

                        Refer to the attached diagram.

                        1) black on S1, red on D1 - record/report ohms
                        2) black on S1, red on G1 - record/report ohms
                        3) black on D1, red on G1 - record/report ohms
                        4) black on S2, red on D2 - record/report ohms
                        5) black on S2, red on G2 - record/report ohms
                        6) black on D2, red on G2 - record/report ohms
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                        • testas86
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                          #52
                          Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                          1) black on S1, red on D1 - 1 out of range
                          2) black on S1, red on G1 - 1 out of range
                          3) black on D1, red on G1 - 1 out of range
                          4) black on S2, red on D2 - 1 out of range
                          5) black on S2, red on G2 - 1 out of range
                          6) black on D2, red on G2 - 1 out of range

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                          • retiredcaps
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                            #53
                            Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                            Originally posted by testas86
                            i tested it at 2k ohms and got a reading of .004
                            i also tested it with 200 setting and got .8
                            Since your mastech shows 0.7 ohms when the two probes together, it is a good fuse at 0.8 ohms.
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                            • retiredcaps
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                              #54
                              Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                              Originally posted by testas86
                              1) black on S1, red on D1 - 1 out of range
                              2) black on S1, red on G1 - 1 out of range
                              3) black on D1, red on G1 - 1 out of range
                              4) black on S2, red on D2 - 1 out of range
                              5) black on S2, red on G2 - 1 out of range
                              6) black on D2, red on G2 - 1 out of range
                              FET looks good.
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                              • testas86
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                                #55
                                Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                                ok good to know thanks. and thanks for walking me through these trouble shooting steps. Does the FET look good?

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                                • retiredcaps
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                                  #56
                                  Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                                  Originally posted by retiredcaps
                                  Hmm, without a spec sheet or another transformer to compare to, I'm not sure if the 2 readings above are correct or not.
                                  This video (about 8 minutes long)

                                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNuGWBPRGKA

                                  shows why I'm suspicious about the transformer readings.

                                  Are there any markings on the transformer other than the top?
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                                  • testas86
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                                    #57
                                    Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                                    hmmm ok so then that leaves caps or CCLFs

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                                    • testas86
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                                      • May 2010
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                                      #58
                                      Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                                      no just that crack on the top is the only things i can see

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                                      • retiredcaps
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                                        #59
                                        Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                                        Originally posted by testas86
                                        no just that crack on the top is the only things i can see
                                        Can you mark up the bottom side of the picture and tell me how you numbered the transformer pin tests?
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                                        • sabre504
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                                          • May 2010
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                                          #60
                                          Re: WestingHouse L2210NW Will not power.

                                          Hi here is a pdf of the board layouts and so on
                                          hope it helps
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