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  • wcoffeyiv
    Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 11
    • usa

    #1

    dell E228WFPc 2 seconds to black

    Hello I have read through the few topics on this monitor (dell E228WFPc) trying to find the “fix”. When it is turned on it will show the 4 color bars and then it is black all in about 2 seconds. I remember reading over the last few years that in many cases the lcd monitors can be fixed so I came to Google and Google lead me to dell and dell lead me here.
    I have no spare ccfl's to test with. I saw a post making a test bulb with a cfl bulb. I have some at home that I need to accidentally “break” so I can make a couple. Most fixes I found include replacing c806, I do not have anything in that spot. While looking for c806 I noticed that c802 feels soft and looks round while the rest are rectangular and solid. I have a pic, it's with the company Iphone so I can't get in to close but I think it shows pretty good what I see. My gut is telling me that is probably what is wrong with the monitor. Is there an easy way to check?
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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: dell E228WFPc 2 seconds to black

    Check the resistance of the inverter transformer high voltage winding pin 1 and pin 6, use Ohm meter in 2K Ohms range and report the reading. Using at least two test lamps will really help narrowing down the problem.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • wcoffeyiv
      Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 11
      • usa

      #3
      Re: dell E228WFPc 2 seconds to black

      Originally posted by budm
      Check the resistance of the inverter transformer high voltage winding pin 1 and pin 6, use Ohm meter in 2K Ohms range and report the reading. Using at least two test lamps will really help narrowing down the problem.
      if you are talking about the 4 windings at the top of picture "front" then as labeled on the board:
      t801 = nothing (meter stays at 1.)
      t802 = .959
      t805 = .966
      t806 = .964

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      • wcoffeyiv
        Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 11
        • usa

        #4
        Re: dell E228WFPc 2 seconds to black

        if that is bad here is the info from the side of it.
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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #5
          Re: dell E228WFPc 2 seconds to black

          T801 has open winding which will give you 2-second to black symptom. You may want to verify again by resoldering the solder pads of the just incase there is flux built-up that the meter probe may not be making contact.
          DARFON 80GL20T-23 hard to come by.
          Last edited by budm; 10-24-2014, 02:49 PM. Reason: Correct the transformer to be 801
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • wcoffeyiv
            Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 11
            • usa

            #6
            Re: dell E228WFPc 2 seconds to black

            801 or 802? 801 has no reading at all, that's what you meant right?

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #7
              Re: dell E228WFPc 2 seconds to black

              Sorry, typo, T801 has open winding.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • wcoffeyiv
                Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 11
                • usa

                #8
                Re: dell E228WFPc 2 seconds to black

                ok, ill do that this weekend. if i get the same results ill start looking for a replacement. thanks for the help. have a good weekend.

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                • Agent24
                  I see dead caps
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 4940
                  • New Zealand

                  #9
                  Re: dell E228WFPc 2 seconds to black

                  Originally posted by wcoffeyiv
                  While looking for c806 I noticed that c802 feels soft and looks round while the rest are rectangular and solid. I have a pic, it’s with the company Iphone so I can’t get in to close but I think it shows pretty good what I see. My gut is telling me that is probably what is wrong with the monitor. Is there an easy way to check?
                  Good observation, but unfortunately that capacitor just looks like it has some glue or such on it. Not a problem unless it turns conductive. But it does not look like the kind of glue which does.

                  In any case, the T801 open transformer is much more likely to be the problem.
                  "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                  -David VanHorn

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                  • daroo
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 63
                    • ITALY

                    #10
                    Re: dell E228WFPc 2 seconds to black

                    Hi, i've got the same problem in my E228WFPc, everyone suggest to replace c806 but as wcoffeyiv said, there's nothing on that spot.
                    I've checked t801,t802,t805,t806 trasformers and they seem to be ok.

                    Have you got any other suggest?
                    I think i'll try recapping in the meantime

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                    • Agent24
                      I see dead caps
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 4940
                      • New Zealand

                      #11
                      Re: dell E228WFPc 2 seconds to black

                      Recapping is an idea, might also help to post photos of your board so we can look at it too.
                      "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                      -David VanHorn

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