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  • ViperRunner
    Member
    • May 2013
    • 32
    • Portugal

    #1

    Acer P193W

    Hi,

    I bought this 19" monitor for cheap some time ago, and i'm trying to fix it.

    Already bought a new ps board for it, and it gives me acer logo but doesn't detect any vga connection.. someone knows if it's fixable or if it need a new graphic board?

    I'm also leaving here the service manual for this set, for anyone who needs it.

    Thanks for looking!

    Best regards
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    Last edited by ViperRunner; 02-20-2014, 12:11 PM.
  • Phoenix83
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 53
    • Slovakia

    #2
    Re: Acer P193W

    Firstly, try it with another computer.

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    • ViperRunner
      Member
      • May 2013
      • 32
      • Portugal

      #3
      Re: Acer P193W

      Originally posted by Phoenix83
      Firstly, try it with another computer.
      Already tried with 3 different computers, and i use all of them everyday with other monitors and projectors, so it's not a computer problem unfortunately

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Acer P193W

        Both DVI and VGA ports do not detect the video signals?
        You cab check all the signal pins on the VGA and DMI to see if the protection diodes are shorted out.
        For example the VGA pin 1, 2, 3, 9, 12, 13, 14 ,15.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • ViperRunner
          Member
          • May 2013
          • 32
          • Portugal

          #5
          Re: Acer P193W

          Originally posted by budm
          Both DVI and VGA ports do not detect the video signals?
          You cab check all the signal pins on the VGA and DMI to see if the protection diodes are shorted out.
          For example the VGA pin 1, 2, 3, 9, 12, 13, 14 ,15.
          Hi Bud,

          Thanks for the quick reply!

          Mine is the VGA only version. Ok, as soon as i arrive home i'll test them! in around an hour i should already say something!

          regards

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          • ViperRunner
            Member
            • May 2013
            • 32
            • Portugal

            #6
            Re: Acer P193W

            Originally posted by budm
            Both DVI and VGA ports do not detect the video signals?
            You cab check all the signal pins on the VGA and DMI to see if the protection diodes are shorted out.
            For example the VGA pin 1, 2, 3, 9, 12, 13, 14 ,15.
            Already tried and of the pins you told me to check, the pin1 is the only One that males contact with pins 4,6,7,8 and 11.

            Thanks!

            Regards

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Acer P193W

              What resistance do you get?
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • ViperRunner
                Member
                • May 2013
                • 32
                • Portugal

                #8
                Re: Acer P193W

                Originally posted by budm
                What resistance do you get?
                The following:
                1 to 1 = 1,1
                1 to 2 = 135
                1 to 3 = 135,9
                1 to 4 = 62,2
                1 to 5 = 5,01
                1 to 6 = 62,2
                1 to 7 = 62,2
                1 to 8 = 62,2
                1 to 9 = 102
                1 to 10 = OL
                1 to 11 = 62,2
                1 to 12 = 33
                1 to 13 = 0,714
                1 to 14 = 1,007
                1 to 15 = 32,83

                Thanks

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Acer P193W

                  That is not the correct testing, you want to test the Ground pin (pin 4, pin 11 ) against these signal pins:
                  4 to 1 =
                  4 to 2 =
                  4 to 3 =
                  4 to 13 =
                  4 to 14 =
                  and (in case pin 4 and pin 11 are not tied together inside the monitor)
                  11 to 1 =
                  11 to 2 =
                  11 to 3 =
                  11 to 13 =
                  11 to 14 =
                  Make sure to report the reading how it shows on your meter so we will know the correct resistance. I.E. Ohms, K Ohm, M Ohms.
                  We are basically looking to see if the signal pins are shorted to ground due to shorted out protection Diodes or not.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • ViperRunner
                    Member
                    • May 2013
                    • 32
                    • Portugal

                    #10
                    Re: Acer P193W

                    Sorry, i've just now noticed that it doesnt appear the ACER logo, i confused with some videos i've seen talking about issues.. what happens with mine is what i recorded on the following youtube video. I've just recorded it right now:

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa_HsmpdM28

                    thanks and once again sorry for misleading!

                    is this issue easier or harder to resolve?

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Acer P193W

                      OK, that is a strange symptom that I have never seen before.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • selldoor
                        Slow Learner
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 7870

                        #12
                        Re: Acer P193W

                        Does it do the same when connected to a pc producing an image

                        Sorry just re read the 1st post
                        Last edited by selldoor; 02-20-2014, 03:16 PM.
                        Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                        • ViperRunner
                          Member
                          • May 2013
                          • 32
                          • Portugal

                          #13
                          Re: Acer P193W

                          Originally posted by selldoor
                          Does it do the same when connected to a pc producing an image
                          On the video it is already connected to a computer that is producing image.

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                          • selldoor
                            Slow Learner
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 7870

                            #14
                            Re: Acer P193W

                            Can we get a good clear picture of the main board.

                            Please do the ohms test as Budm asked in earlier post.

                            Any chance that the main board could have been changed by anyone
                            and is not the original/correct one? what is the part no on it

                            Another thought - check the vga socket has continuity on each pin (hole)
                            Last edited by selldoor; 02-20-2014, 03:56 PM.
                            Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                            • ViperRunner
                              Member
                              • May 2013
                              • 32
                              • Portugal

                              #15
                              Re: Acer P193W

                              One update, decided to take the bullet and also replaced the main board for a new one.

                              And it keeps the same symptoms :/

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa_HsmpdM28

                              Now i am really upset and disappointed

                              And one other thing, the first service manual i posted was wrong, this is the right one for the ACER P193W that i have, for the case someone needs it too.
                              Attached Files
                              Last edited by ViperRunner; 05-14-2014, 12:44 PM.

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                              • ViperRunner
                                Member
                                • May 2013
                                • 32
                                • Portugal

                                #16
                                Re: Acer P193W

                                Sorry for the late reply selldoor, but was waiting on the boards to arrive and replace them to answer you better and don't make you waste any time if that resolved!

                                The PSU board is a ilpi-031 and the mainboard is a ilif-046. Now they are both new, and didn't resolved the problem

                                Originally posted by selldoor
                                Can we get a good clear picture of the main board.

                                Please do the ohms test as Budm asked in earlier post.

                                Any chance that the main board could have been changed by anyone
                                and is not the original/correct one? what is the part no on it

                                Another thought - check the vga socket has continuity on each pin (hole)

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