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  • selldoor
    Slow Learner
    • Dec 2010
    • 7870

    #41
    Re: Samsung 2233RZ "2s to blanck"

    ok but which pins - I am concerned that my original pic showing the secondaries was only an example and is not the same as yours.
    The later picture only showed the primaries which Are in the same position

    BUT the secondaries on YOURS are probably as attached.

    Were those the pins you measured?
    Attached Files
    Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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    • jays_swe
      New Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 8
      • Sweden

      #42
      Re: Samsung 2233RZ "2s to blanck"

      p1-p2 0.02
      s1-s2 920
      s3-s4 883

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      • selldoor
        Slow Learner
        • Dec 2010
        • 7870

        #43
        Re: Samsung 2233RZ "2s to blanck"

        Merry Christmas

        Yes that ismore like what I was expecting.
        It still looks as though it is bad - the S1>S2 and S3>S4 should be within 3%
        Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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        • jays_swe
          New Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 8
          • Sweden

          #44
          Re: Samsung 2233RZ "2s to blanck"

          Happy I found the problem!

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #45
            Re: Samsung 2233RZ "2s to blanck"

            "Happy I found the problem!" ??
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • jays_swe
              New Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 8
              • Sweden

              #46
              Re: Samsung 2233RZ "2s to blanck"

              Yes happy I know the problem.

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              • jays_swe
                New Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 8
                • Sweden

                #47
                Re: Samsung 2233RZ "2s to blanck"

                Change the inverter and works fine now Thanks guys!

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                • selldoor
                  Slow Learner
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 7870

                  #48
                  Re: Samsung 2233RZ "2s to blanck"

                  Well Done! - thanks for reporting back.
                  Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                  • dtox
                    New Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 1
                    • Denmark

                    #49
                    Re: Samsung 2233RZ "2s to blanck"

                    Originally posted by bazzuk
                    Hi All
                    I got the same problem and i need a new part but i noticed a dead give away that the transformer is to blame, if you get excessive discolouration on the pcb around the connections of the primary coil (also near the jumper wires), its a good guess that the transformer is to blame.
                    The component on the back with the missing leg is a dual FET which tells me this is a resonance circuit. I noticed all the messages regarding what the coils resistance is but nothing on what it should be so i checked with some people and found that:
                    1: both secondaries should have about the same resistance
                    2: the secondary coils should have a resistance of around 1000 ohms
                    Could anyone confirm this with a working or new coil?

                    thanks

                    BazzUK
                    I had the same problem as the OP and replaced the inverter. But still get the same error. So there's a capacitor somewhere on my PSU board that's messing things up and I don't have a multimeter to seek out where things are going wrong.

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                    • Lumberjack777
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 464

                      #50
                      Re: Samsung 2233RZ "2s to blanck"

                      Change the inverter? The inverter circuitry? The inverter board? How do you change an inverter?????

                      OH! I guess he meant the inverter transformer!?!?

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                      • Ion Ripper
                        New Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 2
                        • Germany

                        #51
                        Re: Samsung 2233RZ "2s to blanck"

                        Hello, I just wanted to say "thank you" for this thread. My 2233RZ has the same problem and I found this too via google. I already replaced the capacitors by trial, even if measuring them showed that they are still okay, nothing changed.

                        I ordered a new inverter now and will report back if this works. thanks a lot for your efforts so far.

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                        • gtredx69
                          New Member
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 3
                          • UK

                          #52
                          Re: Samsung 2233RZ "2s to blanck"

                          Folks,

                          Having the same 2 second problem, I don't have much experience with electronics but willing to give it a go. I have added pictures of both boards but I think I found the problem. Have a look see please and let me know.
                          Help be appreciated.


                          Is this the problem LM22










                          Just realized that post might be quite long with the photos if there's a better way to display let me know.

                          Many thanks
                          Gareth

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                          • gtredx69
                            New Member
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 3
                            • UK

                            #53
                            Re: Samsung 2233RZ "2s to blanck"

                            Any help on this one please.

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #54
                              Re: Samsung 2233RZ "2s to blanck"

                              Please edit your post so the picyres are not post in line, please use attachment function to upload the pictures.
                              Take good clear pictures of the bottom side of the power supply/inverter board so I can point out the test point of the high voltage windings of the inverter transformer. We need to find out if they are OK or not.
                              Or read the post from the beginning since we have already gone through the process of how to test the inverter transformer.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • Ion Ripper
                                New Member
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 2
                                • Germany

                                #55
                                Re: Samsung 2233RZ "2s to blanck"

                                Replaced the TM-0915 yesterday, that solved my "2s to blanck" problem too Thanks a lot

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                                • gtredx69
                                  New Member
                                  • Apr 2013
                                  • 3
                                  • UK

                                  #56
                                  Re: Samsung 2233RZ "2s to blanck"

                                  Thanks for the reply folks, I can't seem to edit the post anywhere theirs no option or I am blind.

                                  I assumed my problem was in this pic, but I will upload the power board tomorrow and go through this topic again.
                                  Attached Files

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                                  • Tomcatciller
                                    Member
                                    • Sep 2013
                                    • 41
                                    • Germany

                                    #57
                                    Re: Samsung 2233RZ "2s to blanck"

                                    Hello guys,

                                    today a broken 2233RZ arrived. He has "2s to blanck" behaviour.

                                    I just disassemble it and now I want to measure it. My first impression is, that the monitor smells a little bit like cigarette smoke. But it is not too bad, you notice it.

                                    My next impression was that I can see no bad capacitor on the board.

                                    So I want to take some measurements of the inverter transformer in circuit.

                                    I added picture of the back of my circuit and my markings.

                                    manual range multimeter, set it to 2000 ohms

                                    P2-1 <-> P2-2 = 001 ohms
                                    P3-1 <-> P3-2 = 001 ohms
                                    P2 <-> P3 = 001 ohms
                                    P1 <-> P2 = 1 (no contact)
                                    P3 <-> P4 = 1 (no contact)
                                    S1 <-> S2 = 898 ohms
                                    S2 <-> S3 = 1 (no contact)
                                    S3 <-> S4 = 963 ohms
                                    S1 <-> S4 = 1 (no contact)

                                    Does these measurement indicate any circuit failure?

                                    Greets from Germany

                                    TCC
                                    Attached Files
                                    Last edited by Tomcatciller; 09-11-2013, 09:19 AM.
                                    Successfully repaired: Benq FP93GX+ (bad capacitor) / Samsung 2233RZ (bad inverter) / Enermax Liberty ELT500AWT (bad capacitors)

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                                    • Rtech
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Jul 2010
                                      • 1095

                                      #58
                                      Re: Samsung 2233RZ "2s to blanck"

                                      Replace the transformer, looks like the secodary comparison is outside the 3-5% ,and therefore should be changed.

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                                      • Tomcatciller
                                        Member
                                        • Sep 2013
                                        • 41
                                        • Germany

                                        #59
                                        Re: Samsung 2233RZ "2s to blanck"

                                        Ok, thx for the replay. I just searched for a TM-0915 Inverter and found this one on German e bay.

                                        TM-0915 Inverter

                                        The problem is, the seller sais, his inverter has 8 connectors. We know the TM-0915 we need has 10 pins. So I doubt it is the right one. I just write the seller some questions to this parts, waiting on his answers.

                                        Second thing is the part number. All original and replaced TM-0915 Inverters I saw on this thread had the labeling TM-0915 "TNE 1029 D T".
                                        But mine has the label TM-0915 "TNE 1029 B T".

                                        Is this important or just a revision character? Found no infos on google.

                                        Greetings from Germany

                                        TCC
                                        Last edited by Tomcatciller; 09-12-2013, 03:27 AM.
                                        Successfully repaired: Benq FP93GX+ (bad capacitor) / Samsung 2233RZ (bad inverter) / Enermax Liberty ELT500AWT (bad capacitors)

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                                        • Rtech
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Jul 2010
                                          • 1095

                                          #60
                                          Re: Samsung 2233RZ "2s to blanck"

                                          If you look at the pins you will note that P2-1 and Pin2-2 are common,,,similarly P3-1 and P3-2 are common, so that accounts for the two extra pins !!!!!!!

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