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**starfury1** · 01-29-2008, 09:05 AM

Re: What has gotten into me?

LOL yeah mate they did sort of make the stuff like battleships

it could be a bit "in ya face" to look at but those were the days when big and flashy was the name of the game.

I guess you just hate to see it go to the scrap yard...I know that feeling

"Those were the days my friend we thought they'd never en we'd sing &"....noooo....now I singing Mary Hopkins songs.......

(ok yeah a little before the 70's)

BTW post piccies I like to see the before and after shots, thats if you don't mind

Cheers

**dood** · 01-29-2008, 10:04 AM

Re: What has gotten into me?

I have a Marantz 2220b and a Pioneer SX450. Both very stout units, and quite under-rated for power. I think the 450 is rated 15wpc, and it's not even tube!

**dood** · 01-29-2008, 10:34 PM

Re: What has gotten into me?

My SX-450. Got it for free at school... the band teacher was going to throw it out. I happened to be walking past the band room on the last day of school and saw it sitting on top of the trash can. Asked her if I could have it, and she was more than happy to see me haul it home

**Maxxarcade** · 01-29-2008, 10:41 PM

Re: What has gotten into me?

Wow, that is beautiful, and it almost went to the dump

http://www.silverpioneer.netfirms.co..._receivers.htm

The SX-450 is 15 watts per channel, just like my SX-434, only it is a bit newer. Did you rebuild it, or is that how it looked when you brought it home?

I'll post some pics of my collection soon, if I have a minute.

**dood** · 01-29-2008, 11:20 PM

Re: What has gotten into me?

That's how it looked... from the front, anyway. The sides are beat up, and the back isn't too nice. The connections they had from the factory were a joke.

This unit works okay, but the balance is biased heavily to the left channel. It also has a very strange cold start buzz that I've yet to figure out. The lights on the unit flicker and the speakers buzz for a while, then all at once it'll give a little snap and everything will be fine. It probably needs a good recap and then solder all the joints where it's just wire-wrapped posts.

Once the mechanicals are figured out, I'm either going to do it myself, or find someone to re-veneer the wood endcaps.

I was at a friend of a friend's house once and their father had all pioneer silver-face gear, and he had the optional all-wood cabs. Stuff like that would fetch a pretty penny on eBay.

I love the sound of the Pioneer... a warm, tube-like sound, with the umph of solid-state.

**dood** · 01-29-2008, 11:33 PM

Re: What has gotten into me?

Here's the Marantz 2220b-

It's a step-up at 20wpc! I really need to get on restoring this one. It works fine... I use it daily in my computer rig driving an old pair of EPI bookshelf speakers. But, all the front panel lights are out, the string that drives the tuner off of the weighted knob is unstrung, and it's just generally in a state of half-finishedness. But boy does it ever match up with these EPI's nicely.

**dood** · 01-29-2008, 11:34 PM

Re: What has gotten into me?

By the way, www.classicaudio.com is one of the best places for vintage stereo info. Specs are there for a lot of stuff!!!

**dood** · 01-29-2008, 11:39 PM

Re: What has gotten into me?

I just reread your first post and see you have a 780... I bet that thing could make even my SDA's sing! I had the 450 hooked up to them, and it was fine at a lower volume, but had nowhere near enough headroom to drive the three 6.5" drivers and two tweeters per speaker. Sadly, the SDAs were not built to be an efficient speaker.

**starfury1** · 01-30-2008, 12:32 AM

Re: What has gotten into me?

They almost look brand new dood esp the pioneer

**Maxxarcade** · 01-30-2008, 06:26 AM

Re: What has gotten into me?

Originally posted by dood

This unit works okay, but the balance is biased heavily to the left channel. It also has a very strange cold start buzz that I've yet to figure out. The lights on the unit flicker and the speakers buzz for a while, then all at once it'll give a little snap and everything will be fine. It probably needs a good recap and then solder all the joints where it's just wire-wrapped posts.

Definately sounds like caps. Could also be arcing switch contacts or solder joints as well.

The Marantz 2240 I bought needs restoration too. I already have a light kit, as well as some other parts. I'll be posting videos of the restoration on Youtube like I did with the SX-434 and others.

Here is a video of SX-434 before restoration:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppczy...eature=related

And After:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehnuGOww1pA

On my Youtube page there are videos of some of my other audio stuff too.

**starfury1** · 01-30-2008, 02:45 PM

Re: What has gotten into me?

Thanks, nice Job Maxxarcade
Had a look at the videos

Cheers mate

**willawake** · 01-30-2008, 03:35 PM

Re: What has gotten into me?

yeah i ended up watching most of them

**zandrax** · 01-30-2008, 05:08 PM

Re: What has gotten into me?

Thumbs up, Max! It works and seems in good shape.

Zandrax

**PedroDaGr8** · 02-01-2008, 09:59 PM

Re: What has gotten into me?

Originally posted by dood

Here's the Marantz 2220b-

It's a step-up at 20wpc! I really need to get on restoring this one. It works fine... I use it daily in my computer rig driving an old pair of EPI bookshelf speakers. But, all the front panel lights are out, the string that drives the tuner off of the weighted knob is unstrung, and it's just generally in a state of half-finishedness. But boy does it ever match up with these EPI's nicely.

Well shit my dad has one of those just sittin out in the garage in a box, along with I dunno if it is a preamp or amp or what and a turntable. Not being used anymore...is it valuable or something?

EDIT: Went out and looked in the box and there is an old pair of Koss Headphones Pro-4AA's. Aparenly he used to be into high quality audio equipment

**dood** · 02-01-2008, 10:39 PM

Re: What has gotten into me?

I have a pair of original 1970's Ko Pro-4aa's. Plus the boxes and receipt, too. Have it all for the Marantz as well. I got all of that stuff from one guy who kept everything.

It's unfortunate that that stuff is just sitting in a garage

. It should be hooked up and being enjoyed. The 4aa's are a great set of 'phones that are actually still being sold today for $60/pair... though I don't think they've make them any more comfortable. Most good headphones are heavy... which leads to? NECK PAIN!

**dood** · 02-01-2008, 10:41 PM

Re: What has gotten into me?

Koss has 'em for $100, but you can find them cheaper...

http://www.koss.com/koss/kossweb.nsf...%5Efs%5EPRO4AA

10hz-25,000hz. Truely full range headphones.

**kc8adu** · 02-02-2008, 05:39 AM

Re: What has gotten into me?

Originally posted by PedroDaGr8

Well shit my dad has one of those just sittin out in the garage in a box, along with I dunno if it is a preamp or amp or what and a turntable. Not being used anymore...is it valuable or something?

EDIT: Went out and looked in the box and there is an old pair of Koss Headphones Pro-4AA's. Aparenly he used to be into high quality audio equipment

see if you can talk dad into donating that gear to you.
great stuff that with a little tlc will be with you a very long time.

**starfury1** · 02-02-2008, 05:42 AM

Re: What has gotten into me?

PedroDaGr8 well as to value...no idea but this older gear like a lot of stuff is to some sort after items...so don't just tip it or let it be tipped.
Marantz had a very good reputation in the audio world

Cheers

**nsx29** · 02-02-2008, 11:43 PM

Re: What has gotten into me?

I got a question for you guys.

I have on hand a very old Receiver from late 80's.
The brand is called Victoria. The whole unit is silver.

Any idea who made this unit. It's damn heavy.

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